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Ive had some moderate success with this deck online (13-7) and wanted to see what you guys thought about this.  I need to replace my Professor sycamore's with a shuffle draw, but other than that it's running smooth.  I also need to get rid of fan of waves for another Crushing hammer, but i have been to lazy to trade.

 

Creatures

x2  Hoot hoot  ***** to get him first turn and fill up both your hand, while letting them draw two as well.  Remember getting rid of their cards is key)

x3 Alolan Meowth (discards a basic energy from your opponent, but mostly just in their for the Persian GX)

x2 Alolan Persian GX  ( Can't be touched by Tag team - ultra beast- or special energy)  This really is the key to allowing you to have enough time to discard them.  (use gx attack on bench threats).

x3 sandy gast  (just in their to get to the Pallosand)

x3 Pallosand (allows you to discard 3 cards from opponent when a cursed shoval is attached.

 

x4 Lillie's poke doll (just gives you more time to discard)

 

Trainers

x3 Crushing hammer (slow them down by getting rid of basic energy)

x1 Evosoda (lets you evolve Alolan or Sandy)

x1 Lana's fishing rod  (get back a tool or a pokemon)

x1 level ball (find your basics)

x1 Vs. Seeker (get back a tool)

x4 Bellelba and Brycen man (main discard method, plus occasionally may want to clear their bench.)

x3 Erika (they always draw with this LOL  never learn)

x2 Lysandre (another slow method,, concentrate on who has the biggest retreat cost)

x3 Piers (search for your alolans and special energys)

x3 professor sycamores (probably need to shuffle this out)

x2 Bodybuilding dumbells (that one extra turn it sometimes gives your guys is all that's needed)

x3 Cursed shovels (discarding all day baby)

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Welcome

 

This makes 44 cards. Rest are energies? If so, way too much energies.

 

It seems this:

 

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##Pokémon - 13
* 2 Hoothoot BUS 106
* 3 Alolan Meowth CEC 128
* 2 Alolan Persian-GX CEC 129
* 3 Sandygast RCL 81
* 3 Palossand RCL 82

##Trainer Cards - 31
* 3 Professor Sycamore XY 122
* 3 Crushing Hammer SSH 159
* 1 Evosoda GEN 62
* 1 VS Seeker PHF 109
* 1 Lana's Fishing Rod CEC 195
* 4 Bellelba & Brycen-Man CEC 186
* 1 Level Ball BST 129
* 3 Erika CEC 191
* 2 Lysandre AOR 78
* 3 Piers DAA 165
* 2 Bodybuilding Dumbbells BUS 113
* 3 Cursed Shovel RCL 157
* 4 Lillie's Poké Doll CEC 197

##Energy - 0

Total Cards - 44
 

 

Would you be so kind to go Deck manager and with the deck highlighted push Eye button and Export? Or in Edit, the first right up button, a box with an arrow, Export also. This copies the decklist to clipboard. Then you paste it here, and we'll see like above, able to know each card with its set and number and the missing ones up to 60.

 

But for now, Expanded:

 

You're missing an Ace spec (Life dew can deny prizes while with Lana's rod/Eco arm you can re-use).

If you play 1 VS seeker, why not 4. Same with Lana's rod. Also Eco arm. And same with Level ball. Also Nest, Quick or Ultra ball. PLF Exeggcute may help for discarding and back.

 

And ideas:

Enhanced hammer

Trick shovel

Field blower (over Tool scrapper) or Startling megaphone

Faba (over Xerosic)

Hugh

Team Flare grunt

Team Skull grunt

Team Rocket's handiwork (flip coin tho)

Rescue stretcher/Super rod/Ordinary rod (to recover some poke/energy). I'd do Eco arm+Rescue stretcher probably. And for energies Energy recycler (or Energy retrieval)

Counter catcher (snip a benched pokémon, no need Lysandre/Boss supporter turn)

Cynthia reshuffles 6 if you don't want Sycamore.

If Special energies in play, Special charge.

 

Chaotic swell as stadium (or another like Rose tower). Tropical beach of course but this is 2000 packs 😅

 

Infinite possibilities.

 

 

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Thanks for your help. This is my first time on the forums after playing online the past two months.  It's now got a record of 14-9 and that includes two losses for disconnects.  So in reality 14-7 where i was leading those two games.

 

 

 

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 14

* 3 Hoothoot PLF 91
* 3 Alolan Meowth CEC 128
* 2 Alolan Persian-GX CEC 219
* 1 Sandygast BUS 61
* 2 Sandygast RCL 81
* 3 Palossand RCL 82

##Trainer Cards - 32

* 3 Crushing Hammer EPO 92
* 2 Lysandre FLF 90
* 3 Piers CPA 58
* 1 Evosoda XY 116
* 2 Bodybuilding Dumbbells BUS ***
********** CEC 191
* 1 Team Flare Grunt GEN 73
* 4 Bellelba & Brycen-Man CEC 186
* 4 Lillie's Poké Doll CEC 197
* 4 Cursed Shovel RCL 157
* 2 Professor Birch's Observations PRC 134
* 1 VS Seeker PHF 109
* 1 Level Ball NXD 89
* 1 Lana's Fishing Rod CEC 195

##Energy - 14

* 5 Psychic Energy SWSHEnergy 5
* 4 Double Colorless Energy NXD 92
* 5 Darkness Energy SWSHEnergy 7

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

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Try playing either Marnie or for hand disruption on the opponent.

Superior Energy Retrieval is good too if you want energies in hand instead of deck.

Nest Ball is another ball search.

Switch or Escape Rope for switch outs.

Mysterious Treasure can easily find Sandyghast/Palossand.

Ditto 💠 to use instead of meowth/sandyghast.

 

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Some more stadium ideas: Galar mine. Wondrous labyrinth. Team Aqua's secret base. Mount Lanakila.

 

What are your concerns about playability. Finding pokémon? Evolve? Find energy? ...?

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Looking for a stadium to up their retreat cost.  Not sure what i want to take out because it's working pretty effectively

 

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7 minutes ago, Soup1900 said:

Try playing either Marnie or for hand disruption on the opponent.

Superior Energy Retrieval is good too if you want energies in hand instead of deck.

Nest Ball is another ball search.

Switch or Escape Rope for switch outs.

Mysterious Treasure can easily find Sandyghast/Palossand.

Ditto 💠 to use instead of meowth/sandyghast.

 

 

I can't agree with N and Marnie to return cards to pile, in a milling/discarding based deck.

Either Superior ER when you have no way to attach more than one per turn being able to use Energy retrieval (and other) which doesn't need discard.

 

@Dscott2318

DAA/SHF Decidueye it's also a blocking pokémon. And Zamazenta V.

Different deck but check Noble victories Durant

 

23 minutes ago, Dscott2318 said:

Looking for a stadium to up their retreat cost.  Not sure what i want to take out because it's working pretty effectively

 They are in my previous ;)

 

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3 hours ago, Chasista said:

 

I can't agree with N and Marnie to return cards to pile, in a milling/discarding based deck.

Either Superior ER when you have no way to attach more than one per turn being able to use Energy retrieval (and other) which doesn't need discard.

It is actually good for a milling/control deck since it returns the cards to the deck letting you to be able to discard them at future turns while also not letting them set up making them just wait around to maybe get a good top deck instead of just using Cynthia to get out of it and taking out pokemon.

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Is Piers the best choice? Wouldn’t Quick Ball be slightly better to be able to play more supporter cards? 

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7 hours ago, tansleypete said:

Is Piers the best choice? Wouldn’t Quick Ball be slightly better to be able to play more supporter cards? 

I personally like it to go grab the double energy's, but i see your point.  Otherwise energy isn't the most reliable.

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7 hours ago, tansleypete said:

Is Piers the best choice? Wouldn’t Quick Ball be slightly better to be able to play more supporter cards? 

Nest ball is better since it doesn't discard a card in your hand to grab a basic pokemon unlike quick ball which does. Sometimes you have those hands where you don't want to discard anything.

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Hi,


just a couple of questions:

* what do you do against non-GX/V/TagTeam Pokémon? 
* what about Mr. Mime GX and his odd talent as a blocking pokemon?

* for attackers/discarders, what about:

- Tyranitar V (SSBS)

- Pallosand GX

 

and also, to a lesser degree:

 

- Krookodile (SSVV) and its pre-evolutions

- Bewear (SSRC) or Bewear (SMBS)

- Alaloan Marowak (SMUM)

 

For supporter, what about Mars (SMUP)? And what about Team Rocket’s handiwork outside the standard format?

 

thank you.

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