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BetaStagoon

hey this deck has really worked out for me you can try it out!

 

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 15

* 2 Bouffalant DRX 110
* 1 Cramorant V SSH 155
* 1 Rattata BCR 104
* 1 Rattata BKP 87
* 1 Raticate BCR 105
* 2 Chespin XY 12
* 1 Gossifleur SSH 20
* 1 Rowlet & Alolan Exeggutor-GX UNM 1
* 1 Eldegoss SSH 21
* 1 Quilladin XY 13
* 1 Chesnaught XY 14
* 1 Galarian Stunfisk SSH 132
* 1 Galarian Stunfisk V DAA 128

##Trainer Cards - 28

* 1 Lysandre FLF 90
* 2 Sitrus Berry SSH 182
* 1 Poké Kid SSH 173
* 1 Professor Sycamore BKP 107
* 1 Rescue Scarf DRX 115
* 1 Team Flare Grunt XY 129
* 2 Hard Charm XY 119
* 2 Lucky Helmet AOR 77
* 1 Rare Candy SSH 180
* 1 Town Map BKT 150
* 2 Steven ROS 90
* 1 Air Balloon SSH 156
* 1 Max Revive XY 120
* 3 Cheren DEX 91
* 2 Battle Reporter FFI 88
* 2 Muscle Band XY 121
* 2 Cilan NXD 86
* 2 Energy Retrieval BLW 92

##Energy - 17

* 4 Double Colorless Energy FCO 114
* 4 Metal Energy Energy 8
* 9 Grass Energy Energy 1

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

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geTpLAyeD

Too many 1-of cards. Too much energy. Try and base a deck off 1 type rather than 2. This decklist is kinda clunky and inconsistent. Do not use "draw 3" supporters. So many things you need to fix unfortunately.

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BetaStagoon

@geTpLAyeD @Otakutron

 

 

 

Is this any better?

 

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 9

* 1 Lugia DAA 140
* 1 M Steelix-EX STS 68
* 2 Cobalion-GX TEU 106
* 1 Galarian Stunfisk V DAA 128
* 2 Mawile-GX UNM 141
* 1 Steelix-EX STS 67
* 1 Zacian RCL 139

##Trainer Cards - 36

* 2 Metal Saucer SSH 170
* 1 Giovanni's Scheme BKT 138
* 1 Yell Horn DAA 173
* 2 Sitrus Berry SSH 182
* 2 Poké Kid SSH 173
* 1 Professor Sycamore BKP 107
* 1 Rescue Scarf DRX 115
* 2 Revive ROS 88
* 1 Team Flare Grunt XY 129
* 1 Hard Charm XY 119
* 1 Lucky Helmet AOR 77
* 1 Glimwood Tangle DAA 162
* 1 Escape Rope PRC 127
* 1 Town Map BKT 150
* 2 Steven ROS 90
* 4 Hop SSH 165
* 1 Air Balloon SSH 156
* 1 Bede SSH 157
* 1 Max Revive XY 120
* 1 Ether PLS 121
* 1 Battle Reporter FFI 88
* 2 Muscle Band XY 121
* 1 Energy Switch SSH 162
* 2 Cilan NXD 86
* 2 Energy Retrieval BLW 92

##Energy - 15

* 13 Metal Energy SWSHEnergy 8
* 2 Double Colorless Energy XY 130

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

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geTpLAyeD
5 hours ago, BetaStagoon said:

@geTpLAyeD @Otakutron

 

 

 

Is this any better?

 

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 9

* 1 Lugia DAA 140
* 1 M Steelix-EX STS 68
* 2 Cobalion-GX TEU 106
* 1 Galarian Stunfisk V DAA 128
* 2 Mawile-GX UNM 141
* 1 Steelix-EX STS 67
* 1 Zacian RCL 139

##Trainer Cards - 36

* 2 Metal Saucer SSH 170
* 1 Giovanni's Scheme BKT 138
* 1 Yell Horn DAA 173
* 2 Sitrus Berry SSH 182
* 2 Poké Kid SSH 173
* 1 Professor Sycamore BKP 107
* 1 Rescue Scarf DRX 115
* 2 Revive ROS 88
* 1 Team Flare Grunt XY 129
* 1 Hard Charm XY 119
* 1 Lucky Helmet AOR 77
* 1 Glimwood Tangle DAA 162
* 1 Escape Rope PRC 127
* 1 Town Map BKT 150
* 2 Steven ROS 90
* 4 Hop SSH 165
* 1 Air Balloon SSH 156
* 1 Bede SSH 157
* 1 Max Revive XY 120
* 1 Ether PLS 121
* 1 Battle Reporter FFI 88
* 2 Muscle Band XY 121
* 1 Energy Switch SSH 162
* 2 Cilan NXD 86
* 2 Energy Retrieval BLW 92

##Energy - 15

* 13 Metal Energy SWSHEnergy 8
* 2 Double Colorless Energy XY 130

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

Don't use draw 3 supporters. If ur in expanded use cards like vs seeker, float stone, guzma, etc. Why do you still have 1x or many cards? 

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6 hours ago, geTpLAyeD said:

Don't use draw 3 supporters. If ur in expanded use cards like vs seeker, float stone, guzma, etc. Why do you still have 1x or many cards? 

I think the reason a lot of newer players generally use 1-of cards is to account for ultra-specific situations that won't happen often, at a loss of consistency.

For newer players, don't use a lot of 1-of cards! 2 or 3 is the most I usually go with. It's much better to add more cards such as VS Seeker, Professor's Research, and Float Stone in a 4-of, because the more of that card you have in your deck, the more likely you are to draw that card.

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BetaStagoon

i think i understand:

 

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 9

* 1 Lugia DAA 140
* 1 M Steelix-EX STS 68
* 2 Cobalion-GX TEU 106
* 1 Galarian Stunfisk V DAA 128
* 2 Mawile-GX UNM 141
* 1 Steelix-EX STS 67
* 1 Zacian RCL 139

##Trainer Cards - 36

* 2 Metal Saucer SSH 170
* 2 Sitrus Berry SSH 182
* 2 Poké Kid SSH 173
* 2 Professor's Research SSH 178
* 2 Rescue Scarf DRX 115
* 2 Revive ROS 88
* 2 Hard Charm XY 119
* 2 Lucky Helmet AOR 77
* 1 Glimwood Tangle DAA 162
* 1 Escape Rope PRC 127
* 1 Town Map BKT 150
* 2 Steven ROS 90
* 1 VS Seeker PHF 109
* 1 Max Revive XY 120
* 1 Ether PLS 121
* 2 Muscle Band XY 121
* 1 Energy Switch SSH 162
* 2 Cilan NXD 86
* 2 Energy Retrieval BLW 92
* 1 Wishful Baton BUS 128
* 2 Rocky Helmet BCR 133
* 2 Crushing Hammer EPO 92

##Energy - 15

* 13 Metal Energy SWSHEnergy 8
* 2 Double Colorless Energy XY 130

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

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BetaStagoon
29 minutes ago, geTpLAyeD said:

Pokekid and healing cards are bad. Why would you need so many tools?

 

Thank you for telling, i understand healing cards and the tools but since i try to run on few Pokemon i like Pokekid, can you explain

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is this better?

 

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 9

* 1 Lugia DAA 140
* 1 M Steelix-EX STS 68
* 2 Cobalion-GX TEU 106
* 1 Galarian Stunfisk V DAA 128
* 2 Mawile-GX UNM 141
* 1 Steelix-EX STS 67
* 1 Zacian RCL 139

##Trainer Cards - 36

* 2 Metal Saucer SSH 170
* 2 Crushing Hammer EPO 92
* 2 Battle Reporter FFI 88
* 2 Poké Kid SSH 173
* 1 Wishful Baton BUS 128
* 1 Rescue Scarf DRX 115
* 2 Revive ROS 88
* 4 Professor Sycamore BKP 107
* 1 Lucky Helmet AOR 77
* 2 Glimwood Tangle DAA 162
* 1 Fisherman BKT 136
* 1 Escape Rope PRC 127
* 1 Town Map BKT 150
* 2 Steven ROS 90
* 1 Max Revive XY 120
* 1 Ether PLS 121
* 1 Rocky Helmet BCR 133
* 2 Muscle Band XY 121
* 1 Energy Switch SSH 162
* 1 VS Seeker PHF 109
* 2 Cilan NXD 86
* 2 Energy Retrieval BLW 92
* 1 Misty's Determination EVO 80

##Energy - 15

* 13 Metal Energy SWSHEnergy 8
* 2 Double Colorless Energy XY 130

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

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geTpLAyeD

Ok i suggest you to pick a type you would like to use, im assuming steel/metal here.

 

Then pick a pokemon to use. Good steel/metal pokemon include zacian v, lucario and melmetal gx, etc.

Get multiple copies of each. 

 

Get 4 vs seeker, tapu lele gx, float stone, guzma and more search cards like quick ball. You can probably go with 10 energy or so

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The issue with your deck is consistency, pick 1 or 2 Pokémon that will be your attackers and put 3 of them in the deck, some decks require 4, some are fine (even better with just 3 of a kind) then you put a couple Pokémon that are supporting your line up (Pokémon to help you set up or help you delay your opponent attacking you) 

again I would also put copies of at least a couple of your supporters (I'd go with draws but not all decks need 8 supporters that draw).

 

Really ask yourself out of those cards what would you always love to see in your opening hand, then put multiple copies of those.

 

Edit 2 : Also when you're playing a deck to test out after a few games ask yourself what cards have you been unhappy to draw? what cards are always stuck in your hand ? and then re-evaluate them and possibly take them out or reduce the amount (again I would still have at least 4 Professors or whatever drawer)

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cause i keep saying 'bad words' apparently????
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BetaStagoon

? maybe this

 

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 11

* 1 Eevee V PR-SW 65
* 1 Dialga-GX UPR 100
* 1 Aegislash V VIV 126
* 2 Cobalion-GX TEU 106
* 1 Duraludon V CPA 47
* 2 Galarian Stunfisk V DAA 128
* 2 Mawile-GX UNM 141
* 1 Aegislash VMAX VIV 127

##Trainer Cards - 32

* 2 Energy Retrieval SSH 160
* 4 Metal Saucer SSH 170
* 2 Crushing Hammer EPO 92
* 3 Jasmine TEU 177
* 2 Poké Kid SSH 173
* 2 Professor Sycamore BKP 107
* 2 Revive ROS 88
* 2 Glimwood Tangle DAA 162
* 1 Fisherman BKT 136
* 2 Blue's Tactics UNM 188
* 1 Town Map BKT 150
* 2 Steven ROS 90
* 3 Bede CPA 50
* 1 Rocky Helmet BCR 133
* 1 Muscle Band XY 121
* 2 Cilan NXD 86

##Energy - 17

* 16 Metal Energy SWSHEnergy 8
* 1 Double Colorless Energy XY 130

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

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geTpLAyeD
10 hours ago, BetaStagoon said:

? maybe this

 

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 11

* 1 Eevee V PR-SW 65
* 1 Dialga-GX UPR 100
* 1 Aegislash V VIV 126
* 2 Cobalion-GX TEU 106
* 1 Duraludon V CPA 47
* 2 Galarian Stunfisk V DAA 128
* 2 Mawile-GX UNM 141
* 1 Aegislash VMAX VIV 127

##Trainer Cards - 32

* 2 Energy Retrieval SSH 160
* 4 Metal Saucer SSH 170
* 2 Crushing Hammer EPO 92
* 3 Jasmine TEU 177
* 2 Poké Kid SSH 173
* 2 Professor Sycamore BKP 107
* 2 Revive ROS 88
* 2 Glimwood Tangle DAA 162
* 1 Fisherman BKT 136
* 2 Blue's Tactics UNM 188
* 1 Town Map BKT 150
* 2 Steven ROS 90
* 3 Bede CPA 50
* 1 Rocky Helmet BCR 133
* 1 Muscle Band XY 121
* 2 Cilan NXD 86

##Energy - 17

* 16 Metal Energy SWSHEnergy 8
* 1 Double Colorless Energy XY 130

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

a bit better

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nekoshounen
27 minutes ago, geTpLAyeD said:

a bit better

Yes it is, but I'm going to stress this once again, 1/2 copies of some of your main trainer cards is still not enough for consistency. I wouldn't add more Jasmine's but since you have ways of putting things from your discard pile onto your bench/hand/deck I would have 4 Professors in.

 

Don't be scared of discarding your cards (I think it's a pretty common problem both with people's deckbuilding, but also playstyle). I am not a big fan of CIlan in this deck, you have 3 Jasmin that attach directly from deck, pulling the energy into your hand is counterproductive. 

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BetaStagoon

I would prefer to have a stadium card in there, because though Cobalion GX is an ability jock if you get only him at the beginning of a match you gotta di what you gotta do. so saying that what stadium card should i use? i was thinking something along the lines of Skyarrow Bridge maybe?

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Reverse Valley (one side gives "steel take  10 less damage" but opposite side gives "dark pokemon do 10 more damage") can be nice, but dangerous if a lot of Dark decks around (I'm not facing too many so I think it's ok), Altar of the Sunne (fire and steel pokemon have no weaknesses) can be nice for your Steel Pokemon since there is a tonne of fire decks that will just OKO you, there is also Steel shelter (your steel pokemon cannot be affected by special conditions).

Mount Coronet is another (put 2 metal energy into your hand each turn from discard pile).

 

any of those are better than your suggestions imo.

 

EDIT: the descriptions maybe slightly different, but the effects are more or less what I've said, I'm working from memory right now, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong

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BetaStagoon

ive been facing lots of fire and dark decks so im seeing trading for them currently :) and yes you are correct i got IRL bosster packs for a long time

 

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42 minutes ago, BetaStagoon said:

ive been facing lots of fire and dark decks so im seeing trading for them currently :) and yes you are correct i got IRL bosster packs for a long time

 

If you're facing a lot of dark decks, then do not get Reverse Valley, I think Altar of the Sunne is probably the one to go, since Fire-Type weakness  is not something that would affect your deck.

 

edit: since most fire decks have stadium cards, make sure you use your stadium as a tempo card. As in don’t just play it from hand for no reason other than you can, use it either to remove their stadium or to play it so that one of your pokemon can survive an attack and hopefully take them out next turn. Also i would put two stadium cards in, 1 is too few again for consistency

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BetaStagoon

yeah i was thinking alter of the sun (i already got it) and i was going to put 2 of them in

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nekoshounen
28 minutes ago, BetaStagoon said:

yeah i was thinking alter of the sun (i already got it) and i was going to put 2 of them in

Cool, time for some deck testing then, let us know how it goes :)

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i have realised that i don't have enough energy and am removing blues tactics what do you think

 

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 11

* 1 Eevee V PR-SW 65
* 1 Dialga-GX UPR 100
* 1 Aegislash V VIV 126
* 2 Cobalion-GX TEU 106
* 1 Duraludon V CPA 47
* 2 Galarian Stunfisk V DAA 128
* 2 Mawile-GX UNM 141
* 1 Aegislash VMAX VIV 127

##Trainer Cards - 30

* 2 Energy Retrieval SSH 160
* 4 Metal Saucer SSH 170
* 2 Crushing Hammer EPO 92
* 3 Jasmine TEU 177
* 2 Poké Kid SSH 173
* 4 Professor Sycamore BKP 107
* 2 Revive ROS 88
* 1 Fisherman BKT 136
* 1 Town Map BKT 150
* 2 Steven ROS 90
* 3 Bede CPA 50
* 1 Rocky Helmet BCR 133
* 1 Muscle Band XY 121
* 2 Altar of the Sunne GRI 118

##Energy - 19

* 18 Metal Energy SWSHEnergy 8
* 1 Double Colorless Energy XY 130

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

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