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I just checked Serebii.net and apparently there are new Dragon type cards that are being released in Japan by the end of the month. I think that the Dragon type cards are better since they dont have weakness to normal types, only other Dragon type cards. The main draw back is that you need a rainbow deck to use them. What's your opinion on these new Dragon type cards?

 

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Rayquaza is pretty amazing. Immediately start dealing 40 damage for pretty much no drawback. That'll serve you well begin-game, and once 40 damage isn't enough, you have its 90-power attack ready that is very well priced at 3 energy.

 

 

 

The others, however, I'm not so fond of. Salamance has a nice ability but its attack is too expensive (considering it's a stage 2 and it needs multiple types of energy). There are only very few Pokemon where its added effect does anything anyway (like Donphan, who dies by 2 of those attacks regardless of that added effect). Heck, its attack requires 1 energy more than the BASIC Pokemon Rayquaza!

 

 

 

And as for Haxorus: just use Donphan. 1 stage less, needs only 1 type of energy (though no colorless), always a reduction of 20 damage not just when you use a 40-power attack, and Donphan's attack isn't luck-based.

 

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infinity_master

Having an independent Dragon-type is really a GREAT THING !!! But I disagree with NOT HAVING a Dragon-type ENERGY introduced with it. You see, I think there should be an independent dragon energy cards because if you recall from the last pokemon movie (Black & White Movie), it was mentioned there that earth draws its energy from the DRAGON FORCE inside the plant, and I believe that DRAGON FORCE is equivalent to DRAGON ENERGY, so let's just hope that they figure this out before it's too late.

 

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pokebeach.com has translations of these cards. I checked them out and Salamence and its ability has great potential! They all looked good.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ability: Lofty Wind

 

Your opponent discards cards from his or her hand until he or she has 4 cards remaining. You can use this Ability 1 time during your turn.

 

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my favorite is charazard

 

 

Dude, read the thread. This is about a new type of Pokemon. Charizard has nothing to do with this.

 

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AruneProject

Those cards greatly disappoint me.

 

dragon-selection-rayquaza-card.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can see the kiddies whining now.

 

 

 

Kids: RayZekRam decks are overpowered! D : *Whine whine*

 

 

 

Make a new Energy and guess what..none of those types EVEN use it. What's the point?

 

 

 

Who am I kidding I'll collect it..but I won't like it.

 

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Those cards greatly disappoint me.

 

dragon-selection-rayquaza-card.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can see the kiddies whining now.

 

 

 

Kids: RayZekRam decks are overpowered! D : *Whine whine*

 

 

 

Make a new Energy and guess what..none of those types EVEN use it. What's the point?

 

 

 

Who am I kidding I'll collect it..but I won't like it.

 

 

If you were responding to my last comment, then here is my response:

 

 

 

First of all, I never said anything about these cards being made for Reshi/Zek decks. Moreover, I already have x4 Reshi/Zek Cards and other necessary cards to create a devastating deck (without the need to those dragon cards). Also, if you think that I see that Rayquaza card as a powerful card, then your wrong. This card can easily be defeated using a Reshi and/or Zekrom Card.

 

 

 

Now then, what I meant was that there should be a special energy that is used specifically for dragon cards (as the case with other types). Since there is such thing as Dragon Energy, then why should't it exist ?! If I was the one who has the decision in his hands, I would "amend" those announced dragon cards so far (Ray - Sal - Fraxure - etc.) and change there required energy to dragon energy instead of fire/elec/normal or anything else (though requiring one of those in addition to dragon energies is not a bad idea). If this was not implemented, then all those dragon cards would require different energies to use their abilities (which means time consuming) and most of the current cards that require different energies all end up discarding those energies after one attack (I'm excluding rainbow energies here as for energy requirement), so bottom line is this:

 

 

 

1. Dragon type cards need dragon energy cards.

 

2. Metal type cards need metal energy cards.

 

3. Fire type cards need fire energy cards and so on.

 

(As I said before, one addition different energy card required is not a bad thing)

 

 

 

Whether they think of it this way or not, I'm gonna accept whatever is decided regarding required energies for dragon type cards, so no complain from my side whatever the end decision is.

 

 

 

P.S: By the way, I'm not a kid, Grandma Arune !!! :P

 

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I swear there was ment to be a Rayquaza/garchomp deck and a giritina/hydreigon deck for the set that will introduce dragon type decks..... I remember reading it somewhere...

 

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I wish people would stop complaining about these cards! A dragon type card is a welcome change! btw Dark and Steel types weren't original too.

 

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theussenterprise

 

 

Those cards greatly disappoint me.

 

dragon-selection-rayquaza-card.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can see the kiddies whining now.

 

 

 

Kids: RayZekRam decks are overpowered! D : *Whine whine*

 

 

 

Make a new Energy and guess what..none of those types EVEN use it. What's the point?

 

 

 

Who am I kidding I'll collect it..but I won't like it.

 

 

If you were responding to my last comment, then here is my response:

 

 

 

First of all, I never said anything about these cards being made for Reshi/Zek decks. Moreover, I already have x4 Reshi/Zek Cards and other necessary cards to create a devastating deck (without the need to those dragon cards). Also, if you think that I see that Rayquaza card as a powerful card, then your wrong. This card can easily be defeated using a Reshi and/or Zekrom Card.

 

 

 

Now then, what I meant was that there should be a special energy that is used specifically for dragon cards (as the case with other types). Since there is such thing as Dragon Energy, then why should't it exist ?! If I was the one who has the decision in his hands, I would "amend" those announced dragon cards so far (Ray - Sal - Fraxure - etc.) and change there required energy to dragon energy instead of fire/elec/normal or anything else (though requiring one of those in addition to dragon energies is not a bad idea). If this was not implemented, then all those dragon cards would require different energies to use their abilities (which means time consuming) and most of the current cards that require different energies all end up discarding those energies after one attack (I'm excluding rainbow energies here as for energy requirement), so bottom line is this:

 

 

 

1. Dragon type cards need dragon energy cards.

 

2. Metal type cards need metal energy cards.

 

3. Fire type cards need fire energy cards and so on.

 

(As I said before, one addition different energy card required is not a bad thing)

 

 

 

Whether they think of it this way or not, I'm gonna accept whatever is decided regarding required energies for dragon type cards, so no complain from my side whatever the end decision is.

 

 

 

P.S: By the way, I'm not a kid, Grandma Arune !!! :P

 

 

 

 

Whats it mean by Derp Derp?

 

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Hm? What? Oh no hun I was just stating what I think about the card it had nothing to do with anything you said. : 3

 

 

 

Also I did not post that to offend anyone..Surely not you Derpy Hooves..because we love you. I'm just stating what's on the top of my head.

 

 

 

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Hm? What? Oh no hun I was just stating what I think about the card it had nothing to do with anything you said. : 3

 

 

 

Also I did not post that to offend anyone..Surely not you Derpy Hooves..because we love you. I'm just stating what's on the top of my head.

 

 

 

 

Goosh Grandma !!! I'm really sorry !!! To make it up to you, I'ill fix you some hot chicken soup one day. xD

 

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i got this off of pokebeach:

 

"Since Dragon Selection is a mini-set consisting only of Pokemon cards, there will not be a Dragon Energy in the set, which explains why the Dragon Pokemon still maintain random Energy costs for their attacks. If there is going to be a Dragon Energy, it will undoubtedly be in the full-sized BW5 Dragon Blade / Dragon Blast set, so we probably have to wait until then to see Dragon Energy attack requirements. It makes sense to hold off on Dragon Energy too: it just means the surprises will be spread out, thus generating more excitement (and thus sales)."

 

http://pokebeach.com/2012/01/dragon-type-rayquaza-salamence-haxorus-from-dragon-selection-revealed

 

hope for dragon energy is not lost yet!

 

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i got this off of pokebeach:

 

"Since Dragon Selection is a mini-set consisting only of Pokemon cards, there will not be a Dragon Energy in the set, which explains why the Dragon Pokemon still maintain random Energy costs for their attacks. If there is going to be a Dragon Energy, it will undoubtedly be in the full-sized BW5 Dragon Blade / Dragon Blast set, so we probably have to wait until then to see Dragon Energy attack requirements. It makes sense to hold off on Dragon Energy too: it just means the surprises will be spread out, thus generating more excitement (and thus sales)."

 

http://pokebeach.com/2012/01/dragon-type-rayquaza-salamence-haxorus-from-dragon-selection-revealed

 

hope for dragon energy is not lost yet!

 

 

Thanks a lot Djoko !!! I really appreciate your concern about my issue here. ^_-

 

 

 

P.S: Go Federer !!! :P

 

 

 

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for future reference, anyone who disses these new cards, they will be seing from all my dragon type and dragon shaped pokemon (47 to be exact)

 

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Special Dragon Energy? Yes.

 

 

 

Basic Dragon Energy? No.

 

 

 

This is true fact. In order for there to be basic dragon energy, the dragons need to be wimps. Anybody can get whatever energy they want these days, and as long as you have enough basic dragon energy in your deck, you can use whatever attack you do so please.

 

 

 

Now here is the solution.

 

 

 

Every dragon type card must have at least one attack that requires 2 different of the 8 existing energies to use. Keeping that in mind, there is this Special dragon energy card, where like any other special dragon energies, requires you to only have 4 of. Here is what the Special Dragon energy does.

 

 

 

It provides energy for any 2 different element.

 

 

 

It does NOT provide colorless energy.

 

 

 

It does NOT provide 2 energy of the same element.

 

 

 

What this means is that it won't work on colorless pokemon, and it won't work on any other pokemon, other than Dragons, since it works with the property I described above.

 

 

 

I don't buy the whole dragons need their energy cards, and I assume you mean basic energy cards. Guess what, colorless doesn't have their basic energy cards either.

 

 

 

Another thing is that, it is way easier to build a deck to optimize it so that you can add 2 dragon energy to a dragon card than it is to add 2 different energies to a dragon card. With the way I handle special dragon energy, the mother of all dragons, who has an attack where you must attach one of each of the 8 energies, can be achieved by attaching 4 special dragon energies instead.

 

 

 

When I read that there is another type, I was like NOOOOO, then when I saw the cards, I kind of saw what they were trying to go for there. If you played magic, you would know what they were trying to do. If you don't know, here's how it goes:

 

 

 

Artifacts = Colorless

 

 

 

White, Blue, Black, Red, Green = Grass, FIre, Water, Lightning, Psychic, Fighting, Darkness, Metal

 

 

 

Multicolor = Dragon

 

 

 

While Dragons only have their symbol for its identity and its relation to the weakness and resistance, dragons, do not use its own symbol to attack, much like how colorless does not have its own basic energy. Dragons are the king of all elements, in the TCG world anyway, such that their special energy provides for, like I said above, 2 of any different element, but is limited in such a way that it cannot provide 2 of the same element, and it cannot provide colorless. That way, it makes it so that dragons can be used in any deck, but you are limited to certain dragons, unless you have special dragon energy, or you are playing a deck that has energies from all 8 elements.

 

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Special Dragon Energy? Yes.

 

 

 

Basic Dragon Energy? No.

 

 

 

This is true fact. In order for there to be basic dragon energy, the dragons need to be wimps. Anybody can get whatever energy they want these days, and as long as you have enough basic dragon energy in your deck, you can use whatever attack you do so please.

 

 

 

Now here is the solution.

 

 

 

Every dragon type card must have at least one attack that requires 2 different of the 8 existing energies to use. Keeping that in mind, there is this Special dragon energy card, where like any other special dragon energies, requires you to only have 4 of. Here is what the Special Dragon energy does.

 

 

 

It provides energy for any 2 different element.

 

 

 

It does NOT provide colorless energy.

 

 

 

It does NOT provide 2 energy of the same element.

 

 

 

What this means is that it won't work on colorless pokemon, and it won't work on any other pokemon, other than Dragons, since it works with the property I described above.

 

 

 

I don't buy the whole dragons need their energy cards, and I assume you mean basic energy cards. Guess what, colorless doesn't have their basic energy cards either.

 

 

 

Another thing is that, it is way easier to build a deck to optimize it so that you can add 2 dragon energy to a dragon card than it is to add 2 different energies to a dragon card. With the way I handle special dragon energy, the mother of all dragons, who has an attack where you must attach one of each of the 8 energies, can be achieved by attaching 4 special dragon energies instead.

 

 

 

When I read that there is another type, I was like NOOOOO, then when I saw the cards, I kind of saw what they were trying to go for there. If you played magic, you would know what they were trying to do. If you don't know, here's how it goes:

 

 

 

Artifacts = Colorless

 

 

 

White, Blue, Black, Red, Green = Grass, FIre, Water, Lightning, Psychic, Fighting, Darkness, Metal

 

 

 

Multicolor = Dragon

 

 

 

While Dragons only have their symbol for its identity and its relation to the weakness and resistance, dragons, do not use its own symbol to attack, much like how colorless does not have its own basic energy. Dragons are the king of all elements, in the TCG world anyway, such that their special energy provides for, like I said above, 2 of any different element, but is limited in such a way that it cannot provide 2 of the same element, and it cannot provide colorless. That way, it makes it so that dragons can be used in any deck, but you are limited to certain dragons, unless you have special dragon energy, or you are playing a deck that has energies from all 8 elements.

 

 

 

 

Unfortunately, your response seems pretty convincing. :S :(

 

 

 

Adding to all what you said, for a long time, I had this idea that Dragons in general are the kings of all elements and that they can control or provide any elemental energy type (which is also presented in the last movie, where the Dragon Force is responsible for providing all types of energy to the plant), so I'm not disagreeing with what you said, but still hope that there will be basic dragon energy cards in the future (as was stated in djokovic's post earlier) despite those facts. Nevertheless, for those who thought that I'm complaining about those Dragon cards, then you're wrong, I'm a Dragon Fan myself and whatever is decided regarding their basic energy issue, I'm still looking forward to adding some of those dragon cards to my card colection and play with them as well. ^_^

 

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I think I would rather just have basic energy to make the dragons more useable. I don't think that would make them wimpy. Salamence, Rayquaza, and Haxorus aren't even close to being as good as the Unova dragons and they require 2 types of energy.

 

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