My Fire deck almost always loses against Water decks.

[dukebag069]

It doesn't always because of my basic Pokemon but that's typically the case. I run a Pokemon Let's Play Eevee straight out of the box and would like to know what I can do with it to curb this Water weakness.

 

I started playing this week, btw.

[dukebag069]

Seems like enough skill can win me some battles against some Water decks, but they seem to be my biggest threat. I'm wondering if I could replace my Lickitungs and Kangaskans with some Grass types or something. But they would need to take Fire Energy.

[RedLadySophia]

Add a few "Weakness Policy"  to your deck. That should help against water decks some of the time.

[dukebag069]

1 hour ago, RedLadySophia said:

Add a few "Weakness Policy"  to your deck. That should help against water decks some of the time.

That sounds really nice. How much of one card can I put in my deck?

[RobRatt]

6 minutes ago, dukebag069 said:

How much of one card can I put in my deck?

 

4 is the limit of any specific card, with a few exceptions like Prism Star or Ace Spec, which allow one.

[dukebag069]

Pretty sure what I may specifically be looking for is a bulky Grass Pokemon that doesn't evolve and can use Fire Energy.

[RobRatt]

If you're worried about your Weakness to Water Pokémon specifically, be aware that Water can be weak to either Lightning or Grass.  If you plan just a "Grass" strategy, you'll still run into Blastoise, etc.

 

It's always tricky when you're trying to pick out a "tech card" to help with your deck's weak spots (not just Weakness).  Many times you can look for a "support Pokémon" that helps with Energy acceleration, or draw power, that can also counter these problems.  Other times, you might opt for a GX or something that takes Colorless energy.

 

Edited July 6, 2019 by RobRatt

[Felidae_]

First things first, if you run the deck straight out of the box then there is probably a lot room for improvements in general, as pre-constructed decks tend to be quit bad.

 

That being said, I'm not a fan of going out of your way to fight your weakness, unless you are facing them over 50% of the time in which case the best course of action would probably be to change the deck.

 

A lot of beginners want to build the Swiss Army Knife / Jack of all trades and tend to throw in a lot of situational cards that just end up filling your deck and decrease your overall consistency.

 

[dukebag069]

4 hours ago, Felidae_ said:

First things first, if you run the deck straight out of the box then there is probably a lot room for improvements in general, as pre-constructed decks tend to be quit bad.

 

That being said, I'm not a fan of going out of your way to fight your weakness, unless you are facing them over 50% of the time in which case the best course of action would probably be to change the deck.

 

A lot of beginners want to build the Swiss Army Knife / Jack of all trades and tend to throw in a lot of situational cards that just end up filling your deck and decrease your overall consistency.

 

Are you recommending to maintain my weakness but saying a good enough deck would be consistent regardless? I'm not sure how professional format works but it seems like it would be hard to top a tournament if there are decks that auto-win against you.

[dukebag069]

6 hours ago, RobRatt said:

If you're worried about your Weakness to Water Pokémon **************** aware that Water can be weak to either Lightning or Grass.  If you plan just a "Grass" strategy, you'll still run into Blastoise, etc.

 

It's always tricky when you're trying to pick out a "tech card" to help with your deck's weak spots (not just Weakness).  Many times you can look for a "support Pokémon" that helps with Energy acceleration, or draw power, that can also counter these problems.  Other times, you might opt for a GX or something that takes Colorless energy.

 

Honestly, with practice, I've been managing to kick some serious water deck ******* seems like Blastoise is my biggest threat and it doesn't really matter if I have weakness or not, Blastoise one hit kills just about anything. The only problem is that  I could take out Blastoise with my Charizard if my Charizard withstood ****************, but alas, weakness. Once Blastoise is on the field, I'm done.

 

Also, I have no clue how GX and EX works.

[Sniperi96]

3 hours ago, dukebag069 said:

Are you recommending to maintain my weakness but saying a good enough deck would be consistent regardless? I'm not sure how professional format works but it seems like it would be hard to top a tournament if there are decks that auto-win against you.

Yes, precisely. As he said, if you start forcing in measures against your weakness, you'll end up losing matchups that were winnable before due to making  deck far less consistent. You simply can't counter every matchup because you need to have actual strategy in the deck you are focusing on.

Tournament decks may have autolosses, as long as those autolosses are small minority of matchups. Reshizard for instance pretty much autoloses against quagnag but due to quagnag not being too common it is overall quite solid deck.

[dukebag069]

7 hours ago, Sniperi96 said:

Yes, precisely. As he said, if you start forcing in measures against your weakness, you'll end up losing matchups that were winnable before due to making  deck far less consistent. You simply can't counter every matchup because you need to have actual strategy in the deck you are focusing on.

Tournament decks may have autolosses, as long as those autolosses are small minority of matchups. Reshizard for instance pretty much autoloses against quagnag but due to quagnag not being too common it is overall quite solid deck.

Solid advice, thanks. I think I'll look around some starter decks before I choose a strategy I want to modify to be competitive. Money is tight with vacation coming up.

[AutumnAlchemist]

I'd recommended that you add one ore two colorless type GXs/EXs or you could use oranguru SM as an offensive attacker.  (Oranguru is an insanely useful card and I'd recommend it in almost any deck)  Have a nice day!

[dukebag069]

So does anyone play the Let's Play Eevee deck? I would love to know what cards I could use to perfect it? I feel like it does great against the decks I've been playing but I want to make it more consistent.

[_S_N_A_F_U_]

another trick is to over power them early before they can get their pokemon powerd up that being said having other types in your deck to deal with your weak spot is not a bad idea ether

[RobRatt]

6 hours ago, dukebag069 said:

So does anyone play the Let's Play Eevee deck? I would love to know what cards I could use to perfect it? I feel like it does great against the decks I've been playing but I want to make it more consistent.

 

Once you modify a Theme Deck, even one card, your new deck can only be played in Standard format (or Expanded, depending on the cards you've selected).

 

The hard truth is that you should stick with playing Theme Decks against other Theme Decks.  It's a fun format all by itself, but if you try modifying theme decks to play in other formats, you'll find that the Pokémon are wimpy, the Trainers are erratic, and there is way, way too much Energy.  You're better off starting from scratch, or trying to emulate some of the tournament winners (meta-decks) if you enter Standard or Expanded play.

 

I've been where you're at, and even tried this in real-life tournaments.  Oh man, what a disaster.  If you go up against an optimized Tier 1 deck, you'll know by turn 2, at the latest, that you're outclassed.

 

Edited July 7, 2019 by RobRatt