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WingsofFire1014

So I have a Volcanion deck list. 3 Volcanion Ex, 2 Turtonator Gx, 1 Ho-oh Gx, 3 Volcanion, 1 Oranguru, 1 Tap u Le-Le Gx. 1 Scorched Earth, 1 Altar of the sunne, 4 Processor sycamore, 2 Cynthia, 2 N, 2 Guzma, 1 Lysandre, 1 Kiawe, 1 Blacksmith, 3 Ultra Ball, 1 Nest Ball 3 Fighting fury belt,2 Energy Retrieval, 1 Rescue Stretcher, 1 Switch, 2 Float Stone, 1 Enhanched Hammer, 1 Super Scoop Up, 4 Max Elixer, 1 Field Blower, 1 Choice Band, 13 Fire Energy. I also have NO WAY OF GETTING ANOTHER TAPU LE-LE GX, SO THAT'S WHY I HAVE SUPER SCOOP UP! DON'T QUESTION 1 LELE I KNOW TWO IS BETTER THOUGH. Any thoughts on my deck?

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xXTheStalkXx

**I'm gonna assume a lot of things here, I apologize in advance if I get something wrong**

 

I think you are using Volcanion-EX as your main attacker, I would argue that that's not a great idea because it struggles to hit the numbers, specially if your opponent gets a Parallel City in play and you are forced to remove  some Volcanion from your bech. Turtonator GX forces you to discard, I see you run one Blacksmith, but that's not enough, if you make him your main attacker I'd say play more copies of Blacksmith and/or Burning Energy (also VS. Seeker can help, to recover your Blacksmiths, decks usually run 4 copies of it). I like Ho-Oh (it got a promo, so, he should be easy to get cheap) as an attacker better, but that means you should run more copies of Kiawe, you want that turn 1 every game (which means max copies of Ultra Ball). 

Also, since you're in Expanded, some usual staples are often used: Oricorio from GRI or Karen for Night March, Sudowoodo, also from GRI for Zoroark, Hex Maniac (if you don't have it, don't bother looking for her, she's getting banned next month). 

 

I'm gonna share with you my list of Ho-Oh GX (is not optimized or anything, but it's fun to pilot), it is for Standard, though, but it could help you get an idea.

 

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******
 
##Pokémon - 14
 
* 1 Oranguru SUM 113
* 3 Ho-Oh-GX BUS 21
* 2 Turtonator-GX GRI 18
* 2 Volcanion STS 25
* 1 Dawn Wings Necrozma-GX PR-SM SM101
* 1 Tapu Lele-GX GRI 60
* 1 Staryu BKP 25
* 2 Volcanion-EX STS 26
* 1 Starmie EVO 31
 
##Trainer Cards - 34
 
* 4 Ultra Ball DEX 102
* 3 Choice Band GRI 121
* 2 N DEX 96
* 4 Nest Ball SUM 123
* 4 Cynthia UPR 119
* 2 Field Blower GRI 125
* 3 Guzma BUS 115
* 2 Max Elixir BKP 102
* 3 Kiawe BUS 116
* 4 Float Stone PLF 99
* 3 Professor Sycamore PHF 101
 
##Energy - 12
 
* 10 Fire Energy XYEnergy 4
* 2 Burning Energy BKT 151
 
Total Cards - 60
 

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ****** 

 

I think you're a beginner, since I see your running few copies of some staples, maybe Princess_Aurora can help you with some copies of some trainers (Pokémon, even), just follow this link and ask her: 

 

http://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/64095-card-shop-watto%E2%80%99s-junk-yard/

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WingsofFire1014

I think using 3 Ho-Oh Gx's is kind of a stretch. Maybe 2 ho-oh's? And I don't want the staryu or Starmie, because I use energy retrieval instead. I also think adding another blacksmith might be good.

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WingsofFire1014

I am also no begginer. I know so much about the game. BUT I AM A KID I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO GO OUT AND BUY CODE CARDS. I would love for someone to tell me how to make this deck the best it can be.

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xXTheStalkXx

As I said, the deck I posted was only to give you an idea about how the deck could be build... BTW, there is a trade system in game, you don't have to buy any codes... Hope you find someone who gives you the advice you want.

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WingsofFire1014

Yea I do trade a lot. I was not trying to be mean at all even if it looked like I was. Thanks for helping me get a basic viewpoint of it!

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Player_Jay

What if you did the following set up:

 

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

 

##Pokémon - 13

 

* 2 Oranguru SUM 113

* 1 Ho-Oh-GX BUS 131

* 2 Turtonator-GX GRI 18

* 4 Volcanion STS 25

* 1 Tapu Lele-GX GRI 60

* 3 Volcanion-EX STS 26

 

##Trainer Cards - 34

 

* 2 Blacksmith FLF 88

* 2 Scorched Earth PRC 138

* 4 Professor Sycamore PHF 101

* 2 Cynthia UPR 119

* 2 N DEX 96

* 2 Guzma BUS 115

* 1 VS Seeker PHF 109

* 2 Kiawe BUS 116

* 4 Ultra Ball SUM 135

* 4 Nest Ball SUM 123

* 3 Fighting Fury Belt BKP 99

* 2 Energy Retrieval SUM 116

* 1 Rescue Stretcher GRI 130

* 2 Float Stone BKT 137

* 1 Field Blower GRI 125

 

##Energy - 13

 

* 13 Fire Energy 2

 

Total Cards - 60

 

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

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WingsofFire1014

I don't like the idea of using 2 Oranguru, because I have 4 Pro. Sycamores. I like the energy count. But will someone tell me, why all of the Volcanions from steam siege? I mean we have blacksmith's. And why 4 next balls when you have 4 ultra balls, you also have sycamore and scorched earth to get those basics.

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WingsofFire1014

I need the best advice quick. Because I am planning on using this deck soon and I need it to be done at it's best.

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Felidae_

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 12

* 2 Shaymin-EX ROS 106
* 1 Ho-Oh-GX BUS 21
* 3 Turtonator-GX GRI 18
* 2 Volcanion STS 25
* 1 Tapu Lele-GX GRI 60
* 3 Volcanion-EX STS 26

##Trainer Cards - 33

* 1 Computer Search BCR 137
* 1 Acerola BUS 112
* 2 Battle Compressor Team Flare Gear PHF 92
* 4 Scorched Earth PRC 138
* 1 Colress PLS 135
* 1 Karen PR-XY XY177
* 3 Blacksmith FLF 88
* 1 Field Blower GRI 125
* 1 Guzma BUS 115
* 4 Professor Juniper DEX 98
* 1 Kiawe BUS 116
* 4 VS Seeker ROS 110
* 1 N FCO 105
* 4 Ultra Ball PLB 90
* 2 Muscle Band XY 121
* 2 Float Stone PLF 99

##Energy - 15

* 15 Fire Energy XYEnergy 4

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

 

Personlly I wouldn't play Volcanion at the moment, but if you want to play the archetype this is the list I'd recommend.

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WingsofFire1014

Is it still good in Expanded? Also, do you know any ways that I could get a Shaymin Ex? I play the Online game also and have the same deck. I need them Online.

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Player_Jay

I don't like the idea of using 2 Oranguru, because I have 4 Pro. Sycamores. I like the energy count. But will someone tell me, why all of the Volcanions from steam siege? I mean we have blacksmith's. And why 4 next balls when you have 4 ultra balls, you also have sycamore and scorched earth to get those basics.

Most Volcanion decks try to start the battle with Steam Siege Volcanion.

If you run 4 copies of it, you maximize your chances of starting with it.

 

You use Volcanion EX to power up the SS Volcanion.

Than you do Volcanion first Attack which puts the energy you discard on your bench Pokémon.

 

4x Nest Balls improves the accuracy of drawing a specific Pokémon faster.

 

I think the normal Volcanion Set Up is following:

 

-1x Steam Siege Volcanion in Active Spot

-1x Ho-oh or Turtonator on bench

-2x Volcanion EX on bench

-1x Starmie on bench

-1x Tapu Lele on bench

 

You don’t want to use Starmie because you like 2x energy retrieval better.

Thus, I added 2x Oranguru to at least help you draw more.

 

People often replace those 4 cards for 2-2 Starmie Line like xxStalkxx was saying.

However, the 2-2 Energy Retrieval/Oranguru is another option.

I have seen players use.

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WingsofFire1014

Thanks a lot! Now how do I make my trainers the best?

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Felidae_

Shaymin EX has become dirt cheap online. You should get a copy for maybe 3-4 packs (at least last time I checked).

 

There are many variants of Volcanion and honestly it boils down to preference most of the time. Some include Max Elixier, some include Starmie, some run Energy Retrieval and some just bank on you being a good player. Try some variants and see what suits you. I think now you got 3 decent deck lists in the thread that tackle the archetype from a slightly different angle, yet the core concept of Volcanion stays the same.

Given that you already stated that you aren't a beginner I won't go into detail how the deck works.

 

Also, last but not least: if you play Expanded you got to use Battle Compressor and the full set of VS Seeker.

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WingsofFire1014

What kind of packs does Shaymin Ex trade for. Could I trade like 5 celestial storm packs?

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SuperLuigi231

What kind of packs does Shaymin Ex trade for. Could I trade like 5 celestial storm packs?

I have two for trade, if you are interested.

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WingsofFire1014

YES. I really need shaymin ex. What would I need to trade? I will be on around 1:30 tomorrow I could send you a friend invitation then.. P.s. I don't have much to trade. What would you like.

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SuperLuigi231

YES. I really need shaymin ex. What would I need to trade? I will be on around 1:30 tomorrow I could send you a friend invitation then.. P.s. I don't have much to trade. What would you like.

I have school :( so I’d only be able to get on after. Probably 3:30 p.m. for me.

What time zone are you? I am US Central.

 

EDIT: I’d probably just want packs, but if you have anything else interesting then we can discuss when we both get on.

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WingsofFire1014

Ok!

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SuperLuigi231

Sorry, looks like I’m not going to be available till 4:30 or 5:00 today (and I should be available for the rest of the day). Is that fine, or do you want to do 3:30 tomorrow afternoon?

 

EDIT: Just accept my friend request and send me a trade. I'll counter if needed.

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WingsofFire1014

Hep i am ready!

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SuperStone

 

 

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 13

* 2 Shaymin-EX ROS 77
* 2 Ho-Oh-GX BUS 21
* 3 Turtonator-GX GRI 18
* 2 Volcanion STS 25
* 1 Tapu Lele-GX GRI 60
* 3 Volcanion-EX STS 26

##Trainer Cards - 32

* 2 Fighting Fury Belt BKP 99
* 1 Computer Search BCR 137
* 4 Professor Sycamore BKP 107
* 2 N PR-BLW BW100
* 4 Ultra Ball DEX 102
* 3 Scorched Earth FCO 110
* 2 Guzma BUS 115
* 1 Karen PR-XY XY177
* 3 Blacksmith FLF 88
* 2 Kiawe BUS 116
* 2 Float Stone PLF 99
* 1 Field Blower GRI 125
* 1 Cynthia UPR 119
* 4 VS Seeker PHF 109

##Energy - 15

* 15 Fire Energy GEN 76

Total Cards - 60
 

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

 

 

My version of the deck is pretty similar to Felidae's, but there are a few differences, such as more support for ho-oh and the choice of FFB over moosel bond.  This is a slightly modified version to fit what support pokemon you have, but it's pretty darn close to the original.  This is probably a less consistent version than his, but it utilizes energy as a resource more effectively.  Just some trade-offs to consider. :)

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WingsofFire1014

Thank you everybody for the help! I am now winning a lot of events and matches. Thank so much! Kudos to all of you!

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Player_Jay

Congrats!

Do you mind sharing with us your final deck list?

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WingsofFire1014

3 Volcanion EX, 3 Turtonator GX, 1 Ho-Oh GX, 1 Tap Le-Le Gx, 1 Shaymin EX, 2 Volcanion, 3 blacksmith, 4 pro. Sycamore, 4 Ultra ball, 1 muscle band, 1 Choice band, 2 Float stone, 2 kiawe, 1 Field blower, 1 N, 1 Max eliexer, 2 Guzma, 3 vs seeker, 3 Battle compressor, 1 Super Scoop up, 3 scorched earth, 17 Fire energy. This might sound really different but it works really well

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