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And where did OP specifically mentioned he wants a fire type? I'm explaining why Zard will do more harm than good in a deck like this. Look. I think we can at least agree that Zard is a bad addition to a Garde deck. Would you deliberately give bad advice and force a fire type recommendation just because you think OP wants one instead of explaining why pokemon X is better suited for whatever job you have in mind (i.e. Killing babies)?

And I already explained why Zard isn't really gonna help much against a metal matchup

Btw forgot to mention yes there are reasons to place an active Lele on startup but the reasons are (usually) super obvious like wanting to activate Rayquaza GX's ability instead. How is this next level play when the reasoning is so obvious?

And where did OP specifically mention he doesn’t want a fire type?

The OP has a Fire Pokémon in his deck right now!

I gave the OP several different options which is what I’m supposed to do.

 

I said he can pair Gard with the 2 common pairs TalonFlame & Sylveon

Or

If he prefers a fire type to deal with Gard Metal weakness, He can use Charizard EX.

Charizard EX is better than Delphox!

 

I already explain why Delphox is inferior to Charizard vs. Metal Decks.

 

Why are you so against the OP having a coverage Pokémon in his deck?

The OP can have a Zard has a coverage Pokémon.

Zard is the best coverage option.

 

Zard doesn’t require Fire energy, Rainbow energy, or any other type of Special energy.

You can use Fairy & DCE.

 

Zard is a basic Pokémon which doesn’t take much Deck space.

Zard’s Attack can 1 shot tons of Babies, Stage 1 Metal Pokémon, & Diagla GX.

 

Don’t blame me if you think Zard is bad.

Blame PTCG for adding in crappy fire coverage options.

Zard is like the best Fire coverage tech. option.

 

And the OP isn’t confined in only using Sylveon as a pair.

He can chose the option which best fits his playing style.

 

No deck is unbeatable.

Sylveon has it faults!

Sylveon is weak to metal.

Sylveon can only do 110 Damage.

110 Damage isn’t even a 2 shot on 250 HP Metagross.

 

Lastly, I would like to say.

I think using Charizard has a tech. option in Gardevior deck is bloody brilliant!

I love Charizard!

I love old school Pokémon!

 

Those metal decks should be afraid!

I don’t own a Gardy deck, but if I did.

I wouldn’t mind trying Zard out.

Zard can put those metal decks on notice!

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And where did OP specifically mention he doesn’t want a fire type?

 

The OP has a Fire Pokémon in his deck right now!

 

I gave the OP several different options which is what I’m supposed to do.

 

I said he can pair Gard with the 2 common pairs TalonFlame & Sylveon

 

Or

 

If he prefers a fire type to deal with Gard Metal weakness, He can use Charizard EX.

 

Charizard EX is better than Delphox!

 

I already explain why Delphox is inferior to Charizard vs. Metal Decks.

 

Why are you so against the OP having a coverage Pokémon in his deck?

 

The OP can have a Zard has a coverage Pokémon.

 

Zard is the best coverage option.

 

Zard doesn’t require Fire energy, Rainbow energy, or any other type of Special energy.

 

You can use Fairy & DCE.

 

Zard is a basic Pokémon which doesn’t take much Deck space.

 

Zard’s Attack can 1 shot tons of Babies, Stage 1 Metal Pokémon, & Diagla GX.

 

Don’t blame me if you think Zard is bad.

 

Blame PTCG for adding in crappy fire coverage options.

 

Zard is like the best Fire coverage tech. option.

 

And the OP isn’t confined in only using Sylveon as a pair.

 

He can chose the option which best fits his playing style.

 

No deck is unbeatable.

 

Sylveon has it faults!

 

Sylveon is weak to metal.

 

Sylveon can only do 110 Damage.

 

110 Damage isn’t even a 2 shot on 250 HP Metagross.

 

Lastly, I would like to say.

 

I think using Charizard has a tech. option in Gardevior deck is bloody brilliant!

 

I love Charizard!

 

I love old school Pokémon!

 

Those metal decks should be afraid!

 

I don’t own a Gardy deck, but if I did.

 

I wouldn’t mind trying Zard out.

 

Zard can put those metal decks on notice!

And I already explained why Zard won't even help much because metagross GX and solgaleo (both GX and baby) cannot be OHKOed by it. It can't even OHKO Dusk Mane. Yes it will raise eyebrows but what else it's gonna do? It's just a paper tiger. Zard is not a coverage pokemon when it can't deal with the things Garde struggles to deal with. Teching in a Zard just to deal with babies and stage 1 metals is just silly. What I'm saying is that Sylveon does the same thing so much better (sure it can't OHKO Dialga and so what? It's not even remotely common) DESPITE having metal weakness, and energy evolution makes it easy to get going despite being a stage 1. Garde can't really deal with metal at all and that's why people just ******* up and hope they don't face any metal. Fortunately, all 3 standard metal archetypes (metagross, solgaleo snd dusk mane) aren't very common in the competitive scene.

 

 

 

110 not a 2 shot on Metagross? What is choice band? Sylveon is OHKOed by Metagross, Solgaleo and Dusk Mane. But Zard gets OHKOed by them too. Now what?

 

 

 

Just because OP has a fire type in his deck doesn't mean he specifically wants one. Maybe he just saw some synergy with Garde's ability and Delphox's psystorm. The fact that Delphox is fire is just a little icing on the cake.

 

 

 

Reminder that there is a Solgaleo GX yet to be released that is basically Turbo Storm Rayquaza on steroids, has 250 HP and gives all allies NO WEAKNESS. And it OHKOes Garde with a single DCE.

 

 

 

Try finding another coverage pokemon. Zard is not one of them.

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Random....

 

Try finding another coverage pokemon. Zard is not one of them.

 

 

Be our guest!

Be our guest!

PUT YOUR TALENTS TO THE TEST!

 

I say Charizard EX is the best.

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Be our guest!

Be our guest!

PUT YOUR TALENTS TO THE TEST!

I say Charizard EX is the best.

You might as well tech in a Mew2 as a one-prize attacker against Buzzvole GX, the aforementioned Sylveon GX for utility or Sudowoodo to be slightly more annoying instead of focusing on the impossible (i.e. Improve metal matchup for Garde) Edited by BowserLuigi
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Be our guest!

Be our guest!

PUT YOUR TALENTS TO THE TEST!

I say Charizard EX is the best.

Darn it Player_Jay, you’ve made me do a spit take. Now I need to clean my computer screen. :(

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You might as well tech in a Mew2 as a one-prize attacker against Buzzvole GX, the aforementioned Sylveon GX for utility or Sudowoodo to be slightly more annoying instead of focusing on the impossible (i.e. Improve metal matchup for Garde)

Your previous statement said to find another coverage Pokémon.

The Pokémon you have to cover is Gardevior.

You have to cover the Metal Weakness.

You need a Fire Pokémon to cover Gardevior because the majority of the Metal decks are weak to Fire.

 

-Mew2 doesn’t cover Metal.

Mew2 is mostly commonly seen in Zoroark decks.

Mew2 is used to cover Dark Pokémon(Zoroark).

 

Dark Pokémon are weak to Fighting Type.

Fighting Type is weak to Psychic Type.

 

-Sylveon is weak to Metal.

Sylveon isn’t used to Cover anything in a Gardevior Deck.

Sylveon is used to search out combo pieces to speed up the deck.

 

-Sudowood doesn’t cover Metal.

Sudowood has been seen in a few decks.

The most common is Zoroark Counter Deck.

 

Sudowood is used to help in the Zoroark Mirror Match.

Sudowood is acting as a Counter, not a Coverage.

It counters rival Dark Pokémon.

 

DO YOU KNOW WHAT A COVERAGE POKÉMON EVEN IS?

 

I feel like you are muttering Mew2, Sylveon, and Sudowood because you heard other great Pokémon players mention them.

 

However, it is clear to me that you don’t really understand why those Pokémon are being used.

They can be coverage Pokémon for specific types.

Those types are not in line with Gardevior.

 

You spent all this time telling me Charziard is a Bad Coverage Pokémon for Gardevior.

Than you give examples which are not even coverage Pokémon.

What do you gain by making yourself look foolish?

 

I told you from the very beginning that I looked at all the different Fire Pokémon in Standard.

I checked several times.

 

Out of all the different Fire Type Pokémon, Charizard seemed to be the most versatile.

It helps cover Gardevior.

I feel it is the best option.

 

I will say I did see a few other Fire Coverage options.

However, you will have to use Fire Energy or Special Energy in order to attack with them.

-Charizard EX can be used for it first Attack which is 3 Colorless.

-Charizard EX is Basic Pokémon.

-Charizard will do a solid amount of damage 120-180.

 

The investment in this Pokémon is extremely low.

It doesn’t take up many slots.

It doesn’t force you to run other energy types or other special energy types.

 

In addition, you do have the option to use the second attack if you really wanted too.

You would have to alter the deck to allow the use of Zard second attack.

 

However, The second attack would wipe out all Metal Pokémon in game with a damage out put of 300.

Charizard EX is giving you options.

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^ And how many times have I told you that Zard is an inefficient 'coverage' pokemon. You can't cover metal weakness like that. I also explained why 120-180 is not good enough. And I'm pretty sure you can see something wrong with taking 3 turns to charge up Combustion Blast.

 

So how am I supposed to know what you mean by 'coverage pokemon'? Do you realize you're the only person to use the term in PTCG? People don't call 'coverage pokemon'... whatever you call them. We call them 'techs'. They are meant to help agaisnt specific matchups. Thus, Mew2 'covers' Buzzvole GX. Sudowoodo 'covers' Zoroark GX (and annoys all decks in general; it has been seen in Garde decks before).

 

There are decks that play Mew2 and aren't weak to fighting. So according to you, Mew2 is not a coverage pokemon to them? Even though it helps in the matchup against Buzzvole GX?

 

You claim I don't understand why Mew2 and Sylveon and others are being used? Man... Take a look at yourself and ask why no one, NO ONE, uses Zard in a Garde deck. Because I don't think you understand why that card is so bad at whatever task you assign it to do. You keep saying you looked through all possible cards and yes we understand that. But realize that your 'best' option (i.e Zard) is still not good enough. What would you do if all the available 'coverage' pokemon are not up to the task? You... simply don't use them.

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^ And how many times have I told you that Zard is an inefficient 'coverage' pokemon. You can't cover metal weakness like that. I also explained why 120-180 is not good enough. And I'm pretty sure you can see something wrong with taking 3 turns to charge up Combustion Blast.

So how am I supposed to know what you mean by 'coverage pokemon'? Do you realize you're the only person to use the term in PTCG? People don't call 'coverage pokemon'... whatever you call them. We call them 'techs'. They are meant to help agaisnt specific matchups. Thus, Mew2 'covers' Buzzvole GX. Sudowoodo 'covers' Zoroark GX (and annoys all decks in general; it has been seen in Garde decks before).

There are decks that play Mew2 and aren't weak to fighting. So according to you, Mew2 is not a coverage pokemon to them? Even though it helps in the matchup against Buzzvole GX?

You claim I don't understand why Mew2 and Sylveon and others are being used? Man... Take a look at yourself and ask why no one, NO ONE, uses Zard in a Garde deck. Because I don't think you understand why that card is so bad at whatever task you assign it to do. You keep saying you looked through all possible cards and yes we understand that. But realize that your 'best' option (i.e Zard) is still not good enough. What would you do if all the available 'coverage' pokemon are not up to the task? You... simply don't use them.

Zard covers perfectly!

Zard 1 shots Diagla GX

Zard 1 shots Basic & Stage 1

Zard 2 shots every thing else unless your deck list does second attack.

 

You are trolling us at this point, BrowserLuigi!

People have used the word coverage for 20 years.

Don’t push off your knowledge inadequacies on me.

 

In addition, the word Tech. is used as a broad term.

It incompasses many things such as:

 

-Coverage Pokémon

-Counter Pokémon

-Resistance Pokémon

-Immunity Pokémon

-Player preferences.

 

Resistance & Immunity are not that important in the psychical card Pokémon game.

Resistance & Immunity are very important in the game boy Pokémon game.

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Zard covers perfectly!

Zard 1 shots Diagla GX (irrelevant and rarely used. And you still need to Guzma it out before it Timeless GXes in your face, since it will almost never come out to the active on its own if it can't timeless. Oh and it is often paired with Magnezone)

Zard 1 shots Basic & Stage 1 (so can many pokemon, and fails to OHKO tankier basic metals such as Solgaleo Prism Star and Registeel. It can't even OHKO Cosmoem )

Zard 2 shots every thing else unless your deck list does second attack (if you can only 2HKO your target with 2 energy attachments without offering any other utility and you cost 2 prize cards, AND your intended targets can easily OHKO you, you're a bad EX/GX. And as mentined Combustion Blast is too slow)

How is this perfect coverage? You have failed to convince me (and other people) that Zard is a good coverage pokemon.

 

Also hardly anyone uses the term 'coverage' in PTCG. This is not the same game as the main pokemon games and you should not assume that the terms used there can be applied here as well. If you consider Zard a coverage pokemon in a Garde deck, then so is Mew2 in the same deck. It's not like Garde can handle Buzzvole very well either, so why wouldn't Mew2 be considered coverage against something it doesn't do that well against? Or to give a more apt example, isn't Gallade a coverage pokemon in a Garde deck as well since it can OHKO Zoroark GX, alolan ninetales and hoopa?

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How is this perfect coverage? You have failed to convince me (and other people) that Zard is a good coverage pokemon.

 

Also hardly anyone uses the term 'coverage' in PTCG. This is not the same game as the main pokemon games and you should not assume that the terms used there can be applied here as well. If you consider Zard a coverage pokemon in a Garde deck, then so is Mew2 in the same deck. It's not like Garde can handle Buzzvole very well either, so why wouldn't Mew2 be considered coverage against something it doesn't do that well against? Or to give a more apt example, isn't Gallade a coverage pokemon in a Garde deck as well since it can OHKO Zoroark GX, alolan ninetales and hoopa?

You don’t know what a coverage Pokémon is.

 

It’s not your fault that you don’t know.

Many people don’t teach others in Pokémon terminology.

It rarely gets mentioned or even talked about.

 

I will explain what a coverage Pokémon is so you can finally understand.

The OP deck is mainly a Gardevior Deck.

A coverage Pokémon is used to cover the primary Pokémon which is Gardevior in this case.

 

Gardevior has weakness to Metal Pokémon.

If it fights Metal Pokémon, They will do double damage hurting Gardevior.

What you want is a Pokémon that can shield/cover Gardevior so it isn’t getting hit for double damage.

 

Gardevior is Fairy Pokémon

Fairy Pokémon are weak to Metal Pokémon.

Metal Pokémon are weak to Fire Pokémon.

The best way to cover Gardevior is to get a Fire Pokémon.

 

Metal does double damage to Gardevior.

We want a Pokémon that does double damage Metal.

We are looking for Pokémon that is the weakness of our weakness.

Why?

 

Because when ever we face a Metal Pokémon.

We want to bring out our Fire Pokémon to cover our Fairy Pokémon.

This is why it called “Coverage”.

Our Fire Pokémon is covering our Fairy Pokémon.

 

Mew2 is a Coverage Pokémon for Dark Type Pokémon.

Dark Pokémon are weak to Fighting.

Fighting Pokémon are weak to Psychic.

Our Psychic Pokémon(Mew2) is covering our Dark Pokemon.

 

Mew2 isn’t a Coverage Pokémon in a Gardevior Deck.

Mew2 would be a Counter Pokémon in a Gardevior Deck.

Why?

 

Because Buzzwole GX does neutral damage to Gardevior.

It isn’t double damage.

It is regular damage.

 

A Pokémon is expected to be able to deal with regular/neutral damage.

A Pokémon isn’t expected to be able to deal with double/weakness damage.

 

Mew2 isn’t covering Fairy.

Mew2 is being used as a Counter.

It’s a Counter Pokémon used to Counter a specific match up.

 

COVERAGE VS. COUNTER

 

Coverage Pokémon rarely change.

The majority of Fairy Pokémon are inheritly weak to Metal.

The majority of Fire Pokémon are inheritly good vs Metal.

Fire Pokémon will always be great Fairy coverage partners.

The game designed every Pokémon type to have weakness & strength.

The weakness & strengths rarely change.

 

Counter Pokémon often change.

Counter Pokémon change as the meta changes.

Mew2 is played to counter a popular meta deck Buzzwole.

When Buzzwole falls out of the meta spot light, Players will use a new Counter.

The new counter will be used against the new meta deck.

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^Geez.. I know what your definition of coverage pokemon means ok? I'm not dumb enough not to know that Garde is weak to metal and that metal is weak to fire. I'm just saying that NO ONE uses the term 'coverage' in PTCG. Same reason why few use the term 'tech' in the main games. How are you not getting this?

 

Also in the main games coverage often also includes hitting many types for SE in general in conjunction with STABs. It doesn't necessary mean dealing SE damage against pokes that the pokemon in question is weak to.

 

And this isn't even considering that the 'coverage' pokemon in question isn't even pulling its weight to begin with. You don't call Ember on a fairy type a coverage move just because it is SE against steel.

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The purpose of this forum is to help the OP deck.

Delphox isn’t a very effective partner for Gardevior.

It causes the deck to be really bogged down with to many evolution lines.

 

-Charizard EX is a better coverage partner.

-TalonFlame & Sylveon are better speeding up partners.

 

^Geez.. I know what your definition of coverage pokemon means ok? I'm not dumb enough not to know that Garde is weak to metal and that metal is weak to fire. I'm just saying that NO ONE uses the term 'coverage' in PTCG. Same reason why few use the term 'tech' in the main games. How are you not getting this?

 

You are wrong.

Pokémon players have used both terms in Pokémon TCG & Simulators for 20+ years.

I know because I have played both.

 

Also in the main games coverage often also includes hitting many types for SE in general in conjunction with STABs. It doesn't necessary mean dealing SE damage against pokes that the pokemon in question is weak to.

 

And this isn't even considering that the 'coverage' pokemon in question isn't even pulling its weight to begin with. You don't call Ember on a fairy type a coverage move just because it is SE against steel.

You have no clue what your talking about.

Just stop talking about stuff you clearly don’t know!

 

STABS are Psychical Attack’s in Battle Simulation.

Fairy Pokémon are more valued as Special Attack’s.

Pokémon players generally max out EV’s in Fairy Pokémon Special Attack stats.

 

The main Coverage Fire move used by Fairy Type Pokémon in Battle Simulation is Hidden Power - Fire.

Hidden Power - Fire is a Special Attack.

It is Super Effective.

 

The best Fairy Pokémon in Battle Simulation is Xearneas.

Geomancy - Xearneas can be extremely devastating.

I have won hundreds of battles with Xearneas.

It can sweep entire Pokémon teams if given the proper set up.

Xearneas can 1 Shot kill or at very least 2 Shot kill all Steel Pokémon with proper set up.

 

I love playing in the UBER tier.

Hidden Power - Fire is a move Xearneas could learn if it was trying to counter:

-Ferrothorn

-Mega Scizor

-Genesect

It can 1 shot all the above Pokémon.

 

-Necrozma - Dusk Mane

-Mega Metagross

-Aegislash

It can 2 shot all the above Pokémon.

 

I, personally, don’t run Hidden Power - Fire on my Xearneas.

The main reason is because I run Primal Groudon.

Primal Groudon is Ground/Fire Type.

I can use him to OTK Steel with a Fire move.

 

Hidden Power - Fire is considered a coverage move for Xearneas.

It is an extremely good move.

It is 100% playable.

 

Sadly, Most people in the UBER Tier don’t need to use Hidden Power - Fire on Xearneas.

The main reason they don’t use it is because of Primal Groudon.

They would just switch into Primal Groudon.

 

Primal Groudon is consider the Top Exellence of the UBER Tier Meta Game.

All Meta Pokémon teams run him with really no exception’s.

 

PDon - Ground Type makes him an excellent Stealth Rock setter.

PDon - Fire Type makes him an excellent Steel Check.

PDon - Bulky-ness in High Attack & Special Attack can make him a devastating Wall Breaker.

PDon can power through the opponent Pokémon.

 

The Steel Type is considered to be the strongest type in Pokémon Simulation.

Fairy & Dragon Type are the respect 2nd & 3rd place types.

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The purpose of this forum is to help the OP deck.

Delphox isn’t a very effective partner for Gardevior.

It causes the deck to be really bogged down with to many evolution lines.

 

-Charizard EX is a better coverage partner.

Yes, Delphox is not a good partner. No one said it is. But Zard isn't any better. At least Delphox OHKOes Metagross and Solgaleo which Zard cannot do. This makes Zard at least as worse as Delphox, and likely even worse because why tf are you even using Zard at all? It doesn't OHKO anything noteworthy. It is easily OHKOed in return. Most of the time you will not even what to throw it down on the bench. Why is it even there?

 

 

You are wrong.

Pokémon players have used both terms in Pokémon TCG & Simulators for 20+ years.

I know because I have played both.

I'm more like 17+ years (well....not the simulation part, since I'm not aware that they exist THAT early, but I do play the main games). And as far as I'm concerned the term 'coverage' is rarely ever used in PTCG.

 

 

You have no clue what your talking about.

Just stop talking about stuff you clearly don’t know!

 

STABS are Psychical Attack’s in Battle Simulation.

Fairy Pokémon are more valued as Special Attack’s.

Pokémon players generally max out EV’s in Fairy Pokémon Special Attack stats.

Do YOU even know what you're talking about? How can you play simulations for 20+ years and still don't know what STAB means?

 

STAB is an acronym for Same Type Attack Bonus. STABs aren't just physical attacks. For example, Gardevoir is psychic and fairy type. Her STABs are therefore psychic and fairy. Thus, both Moonblast and Psychic are STAB moves for Gardevoir. Why do I even need to explain this....

 

 

I love playing in the UBER tier.

Hidden Power - Fire is a move Xearneas could learn if it was trying to counter:

-Ferrothorn

-Mega Scizor

-Genesect

It can 1 shot all the above Pokémon.

 

-Necrozma - Dusk Mane

-Mega Metagross

-Aegislash

It can 2 shot all the above Pokémon.

 

I, personally, don’t run Hidden Power - Fire on my Xearneas.

The main reason is because I run Primal Groudon.

Primal Groudon is Ground/Fire Type.

I can use him to OTK Steel with a Fire move.

 

Hidden Power - Fire is considered a coverage move for Xearneas.

It is an extremely good move.

It is 100% playable.

 

Sadly, Most people in the UBER Tier don’t need to use Hidden Power - Fire on Xearneas.

The main reason they don’t use it is because of Primal Groudon.

They would just switch into Primal Groudon.

 

Primal Groudon is consider the Top Exellence of the UBER Tier Meta Game.

All Meta Pokémon teams run him with really no exception’s.

 

PDon - Ground Type makes him an excellent Stealth Rock setter.

PDon - Fire Type makes him an excellent Steel Check.

PDon - Bulky-ness in High Attack & Special Attack can make him a devastating Wall Breaker.

PDon can power through the opponent Pokémon.

 

The Steel Type is considered to be the strongest type in Pokémon Simulation.

Fairy & Dragon Type are the respect 2nd & 3rd place types.

And what does all this have any relevance to PTCG, and Zard being good in a Garde deck? And I already know all of these things without you telling me (except the part where you said steel is the best; that is rather debatable).

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Yes, Delphox is not a good partner. No one said it is. But Zard isn't any better. At least Delphox OHKOes Metagross and Solgaleo which Zard cannot do. This makes Zard at least as worse as Delphox, and likely even worse because why tf are you even using Zard at all? It doesn't OHKO anything noteworthy. It is easily OHKOed in return. Most of the time you will not even what to throw it down on the bench. Why is it even there?

 

Charizard is 100% better than Delphox.

Delphox is slow because it Stage 2.

Delphox takes same attack cost as Zard.

Delphox is so bad.

 

Your giving the OP bad advice.

Telling the OP, Delphox is better than Charizard.

How can you even say such things knowing how bad Delphox is.

 

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I know what STAB’s are.

Your the one trying to use Ember on Fairy Pokémon.

Let it go, man!

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Charizard is 100% better than Delphox.

Delphox is slow because it Stage 2.

Delphox takes same attack cost as Zard.

Delphox is so bad.

Your giving the OP bad advice.

Telling the OP, Delphox is better than Charizard.

How can you even say such things knowing how bad Delphox is.

Because Delphox can OHKO? And cost one prize card?

 

Psystorm has the same attack cost as Zard so that's not much to complain about. And honestly I'm more worried about the fact that it requires at least 2 turns to charge up than it being a stage 2, cuz there's things like ultra ball and rare candy for that.

 

EDIT: Actually scratch that I forgot that Garde can load energies onto any type, not just fairy, so you can charge up both Delphox and Zard in one turn. Still, you only need a total of 5 energies between both players and a choice band to OHKO a Metagross. Easy enough.

 

How can you even say Zard is better when it can't do anything worthwhile?

 

I know what STAB’s are.

Your the one trying to use Ember on Fairy Pokémon.

Let it go, man!

Your previous post doesn't imply that you do. Edited by BowserLuigi
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Because Delphox can OHKO? And cost one prize card?

Psystorm has the same attack cost as Zard so that's not much to complain about. And honestly I'm more worried about the fact that it requires at least 2 turns to charge up than it being a stage 2, CUZ THERE’S THINGS LIKE ULTRA BALL AND RARE CANDY FOR THAT.

How can you even say Zard is better when it can't do anything worthwhile?

 

So now your going to force the OP to use Rare Candies?

The OP doesn’t want to use Rare Candies!

Post #3 - The OP said Rare Candies are terrible.

 

You can’t force that person to use a card he doesn’t want to use. Lol

Do you even hear yourself talk sometime.

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So now your going to force the OP to use Rare Candies?

The OP doesn’t want to use Rare Candies!

Post #3 - The OP said Rare Candies are terrible.

You can’t force that person to use a card he doesn’t want to use. Lol

Do you even hear yourself talk sometime.

What???? So instead of explaining why rare candies are not terrible (he's obviously a new player so that's kinda expected), you recommend him to use a suboptimal pokemon instead?

 

And yet you claim to give good advice and other people are giving bad advice

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What???? So instead of explaining why rare candies are not terrible (he's obviously a new player so that's kinda expected), you recommend him to use a suboptimal pokemon instead?

And yet you claim to give good advice and other people are giving bad advice

Post #4 & #5 - people did explain why Rare Candies are not terrible.

The OP didn’t budge.

 

What’s your next phase of attack?

 

Bagger the OP until he caves?

Doesn’t work like that I’m afraid.

He will just ignore your advice & walk away.

 

I did the best option.

Charizard is a Basic.

It is very good for what the OP wants.

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Post #4 & #5 - people did explain why Rare Candies are not terrible.

The OP didn’t budge.

What’s your next phase of attack?

Bagger the OP until he caves?

Doesn’t work like that I’m afraid.

He will just ignore your advice & walk away.

I did the best option.

Charizard is a Basic.

It is very good for what the OP wants.

Someone also offered to take a look at OP's deck because likely the OP has stuff like Hau and Poke Ball or something which leads them to believe that rare candies are bad.

 

In fact, this is getting way too ridiculous. OP only posted like... 2 times in this topic and it is clear that he has no interest in improving this deck. If the OP really, REALLY wants a fire type, wants to build a garde deck (and not a delphox deck) AND doesn't want to use rare candies then yeah just use Zard and call it a day. For all we know he could be wanting to build a Delphox deck, not necessarily wanting to tech in a fire type and just had 4 Haus and 4 pokeballs in his deck instead of 4 ultra balls and 4 cynthias.

 

There are basically only 2 ways to make OP listen

- Badgering him till he caves

- Wait for time to do all the hard work

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