Ninetales Deck Acting Up

[Jetboys]

So I have been working on a good and consistent Ninetales GX deck, and even though the construction looks good, I keep on ending up with hands I just can't do anything with. 

 

If people could give me suggestions and tell me what cards I should take out or put in that would be greatly appreciated. 

 

Here is the decklist:

 

Pokemon 13

 

Alolan Vulpix 4

Alolan Ninetales GX 4

Remoraid 1

Octillery 1

Manaphy Ex 1 (aqua tube)

Tapu Lele Gx 2

 

Energy 12

 

Water 8

Double Colorless 4

 

Trainers 35

 

Rough Seas 4

Guzma 2

Professor Juniper 4

N 4

Bridgette 1

Pokemon Center Lady 2

Aqua Patch 4

Rescue Stretcher 2

VS Seeker 4

Choice Band 1

Rock Guard 1

Ultra Ball 4

 

[Xi_of_SCS]

A9T is a stalling poke. You need to combine with a heavy hitter. I've tried Zoroark and Xerneas.

 

For example:

 

 

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 20

* 2 Doduo BKT 116
* 2 Dodrio BKT 117
* 4 Zorua BKT 89
* 3 Zoroark BKT 91
* 2 Zoroark BREAK BKT 92
* 4 Alolan Vulpix GRI 21
* 3 Alolan Ninetales BUS 28

##Trainer Cards - 26

* 3 Lusamine CIN 96
* 1 Mars UPR 128
* 2 Wally ROS 94
* 1 Skyla BKP 122
* 1 Gladion CIN 95
* 1 Acerola BUS 112
* 1 Brock's Grit EVO 107
* 1 Ninja Boy STS 103
* 1 Fisherman BKT 136
* 1 Field Blower GRI 125
* 2 Guzma BUS 115
* 4 Tierno BKP 112
* 1 Pokémon Center Lady FLF 105
* 1 Brigette BKT 161
* 1 Judge BKT 143
* 1 Mallow GRI 145
* 3 Professor Kukui SUM 128

##Energy - 14

* 2 Double Colorless Energy FCO 114
* 6 Water Energy Energy 3
* 6 Darkness Energy  7

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

 

 

Edited May 16, 2018 by Xi_of_SCS

[SuperStone]

A9T is a stalling poke. You need to combine with a heavy hitter. I've tried Zoroark and Xerneas.

He's using the GX, not the reg form- so it's really more of a turbo/snipe/disruption deck.

[Xi_of_SCS]

My bad. It simply didn't occur to me why anybody would ever use Alolan Ninetales-GX instead of Garchomp and Lucario.

 

Kill four of these dragons while losing three of your GX and who wins?

 

 

 

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 19

* 2 Rayquaza GRI 106
* 3 Gible UPR 96
* 3 Gabite UPR 98
* 2 Garchomp UPR 99
* 1 Gible BKP 68
* 3 Riolu UPR 66
* 1 Gabite BKP 69
* 2 Lucario UPR 67
* 1 Lucario BUS 71
* 1 Garchomp BKP 70

##Trainer Cards - 26

* 3 Lusamine CIN 96
* 1 Gladion CIN 95
* 1 Lady FLI 109
* 1 Brooklet Hill GRI 120
* 1 Acerola BUS 112
* 2 Wally ROS 94
* 1 Skyla BKP 122
* 1 Judge UL 78
* 1 Brock's Grit EVO 107
* 1 Scorched Earth PRC 138
* 1 Fisherman BKT 136
* 4 Cynthia UPR 119
* 1 Pokémon Center Lady FLF 93
* 3 Guzma BUS 115
* 1 Brigette BKT 161
* 1 Mallow GRI 145
* 1 Choice Band GRI 121
* 1 Professor Kukui SUM 128

##Energy - 15

* 2 Strong Energy FCO 115
* 10 Fighting Energy Energy 6
* 3 Double Colorless Energy EVO 90

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

 

Edited May 17, 2018 by Xi_of_SCS

[shadoxfoxspirit]

Alolan Ninetales Deck:

 

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

 

Pokémon - 16

 

* 3 Zorua

* 3 Zoroark-GX

* 1 Oricorio GRI 56

* 1 Tapu Lele-GX

* 4 Alolan Vulpix

* 1 Volcanion {Prism*}

* 3 Alolan Ninetales-GX

 

Trainer Cards - 30

 

* 2 N

* 2 Crasher Wake

* 3 Choice Band

* 1 Lana

* 1 Super Rod

* 4 Aqua Patch

* 1 Special Charge

* 4 Cynthia

* 1 Professor's Letter

* 4 Ultra Ball

* 1 Field Blower

* 2 Float Stone

* 2 Professor Sycamore

* 2 Guzma

 

Energy - 14

 

* 4 Double Colorless Energy

* 10 Water Energy

 

Total Cards - 60

 

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

 

This is my list I’m gonna test out. I would switch Octillery to Zoroark, drop water for aqua patch.

[SuperStone]

 

My bad. It simply didn't occur to me why anybody would ever use Alolan Ninetales-GX instead of Garchomp and Lucario.

 

Kill four of these dragons while losing three of your GX and who wins?

Here's the thing: Ninetales has more support, and more consistency.  Garchomp needs Candy, a Cynthia every turn, and special charge.  Nintales has Aqua Patch, Manaphy-EX, Lapras as a switch-hitter, a more consistent (though worse) second attack, and gets to use an extremely powerful set-up attack.

 

Garchomp is still probably a better deck, but the trade-offs are evident.

[Comicazy]

Jetboys- What kind of hands are you ending up with that you can't do anything with? Too much energy? Too many trainer cards that aren't usable immediately? 

 

I'm no expert, so I'll just give my thoughts based on a little experience. You decide what you ultimately want to do. I'm also primarily a Standard format player.

 

Octillery(I'm assuming it's the draw until you have 5 in the hand ability) is great for when you've got a small hand and you're using almost everything you draw. However, I think you need more draw support. By that I mean, you need to be able to get rid of useless card in your current hand to get to what you need. Professor Sycamore is a common Staple card to help you get the cards you need. N does a decent job, but it's just not as powerful especially in the late game(unless you're behind and dropping your opponent to 1 or 2 cards can kill their steam). I don't typically run more than 2 N's, if any(personal preference). Cynthia can also do a good job if you don't want to change your opponents hand, and you have cards that you absolutely need to keep in your deck.

 

If you're playing online, when you look at your deck there is a button that say 'Export Decklist'. That will copy your entire deck, and when you paste it, it will look like the other decks that were posted. This allows everyone to see exactly what cards(Expansion, card number, etc) you're running, and they can make better suggestions. 

 

Hope any of that helps you. If I think of anything else, I'll let you know.

[Jetboys]

I am mostly ending up with hands that don't have energy or do not have a means of getting new cards.  It is really annoying because I can't knock out the opponents pokemon before he charges up a benched pokemon without the energy. 

[Comicazy]

Okay, just looked it up and realized that Juniper is the same as Sycamore, my bad. As I said before I'm primarily a Standard Format Player.

 

Here's what I'm thinking. To me, 13 Pokemon seems a bit much. Could possibly cut to a 2-2 or 3-2 line for Ninetales, then you could have room for either more energy, or energy searches(Professors Letter, Energy Lotto)

 

Also, if you're not getting enough energy to begin with, Aqua Patch may not be as useful since it draws the energy from the discard pile.

 

Hope this helps some.

[BowserLuigi]

Okay, just looked it up and realized that Juniper is the same as Sycamore, my bad. As I said before I'm primarily a Standard Format Player.

 

Here's what I'm thinking. To me, 13 Pokemon seems a bit much. Could possibly cut to a 2-2 or 3-2 line for Ninetales, then you could have room for either more energy, or energy searches(Professors Letter, Energy Lotto)

 

Also, if you're not getting enough energy to begin with, Aqua Patch may not be as useful since it draws the energy from the discard pile.

 

Hope this helps some.

The pokemon count is actually fine. Seeing as Alolan Ninetales GX is the main pokemon in the deck, I do not recommend going a 2-2 or 3-2 line. 4-3 line is ok to make room for 1 baby Icetales.

 

The energy count seems healthy enough. Maybe take out the nurse joys/lana for cynthias?

Edited May 22, 2018 by BowserLuigi

[Player_Jay]

The problem is you have implemented the wrong deck strategy.

 

Furthermore, your Pokémon count is to low.

 

You need more Pokémon!

 

Lastly, I don’t know what format you want to play this deck in.

 

My best guess is Expanded because of the VS Seekers.

 

However, your not running Battle Compressors which leaves me thinking maybe not Expanded?

 

I need more information before I can help you.

[Player_Jay]

LOL @ People who rated down my previous comment!

 

My previous comment was spot on peeps.

 

I’m sorry if you can’t understand why my comment was spot on.

 

You could have asked!