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[Card] Magearna GX vs Shadow Stitching

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MDarkJolteon

Ive had 2 games now where:

 

1) I shadow stitched; both solgaleo gx and magearna has no energy

 

2) I shadow stitched; magearna had no energy and solgaleo gx did

 

In both scenarios my opponents were able to ultra road, but both pokemon need a metal energy prior to the Greninja Shadow Sitch in order to be immune.

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Mod_GuruLot

Ive had 2 games now where:

 

1) I shadow stitched; both solgaleo gx and magearna has no energy

 

2) I shadow stitched; magearna had no energy and solgaleo gx did

 

In both scenarios my opponents were able to ultra road, but both pokemon need a metal energy prior to the Greninja Shadow Sitch in order to be immune.

Hello MDarkJolteon, 

 

Thank you for taking your time to report what has occurredI'm passing this along to the developers.

 

Please keep an eye on this board to know when this issue gets resolved.

Should you have more information to provide us with, please post it here, in the same thread.

 

Keep us posted!   ;)

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SandaledOtter

 

(Attack) Shadow Stitching:

 

Until the end of your opponent's next turn, each Pokémon your opponent has in play, in his or her hand, and in his or her discard pile has no Abilities. (This includes cards that come into play on that turn.)

 

(Ability) Mystic Heart:

 

Prevent all effects of your opponent's attacks, except damage, done to each of your Pokémon that has any (M) Energy attached to it. (Existing effects are not removed.)

 

The official ruling:

 

 

Q. If Magearna EX with the "Mystic Heart" Ability is in play, are all Pokemon with Metal Energy attached protected from Greninja's "Shadow Stitching" attack?

A. If Magearna EX has a Metal Energy attached to it, all Pokemon with Metal Energy attached are protected; however, if Magearna EX does not have a Metal Energy attached to it, its Mystic Heart Ability is shut off and no Pokemon with Metal Energy attached are protected.

 

(Feb 2, 2017 TPCi Rules Team)

 

So yes, Magearna EX needs to have the energy, as does any other card, to be protected.

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Chasista

And there's more:

 

'Existing effects are not removed' so, if Magearna gets the energy with Shadow stitching active, does not get the ability in that moment as the effect of Shadow stitching is not removed.

 

Or at least should be, as I understand

 

It's second report relating to Magearna and Greninja that I see.

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Mod_Jynthu

Hello Trainers,

 

Thank you for the helpful replies regarding this issue!

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Begbie00

This seems like it's broken, though perhaps it's a Prism Energy issue instead of Magearna EX.

 

If Magearna has a metal energy on it, it is supposed to prevent the effect of Shadow Stitching on itself and, via its own ability, on any other Pokemon. See below game log where this didn't happen.

 

Q. If Magearna EX with the "Mystic Heart" Ability is in play, are all Pokemon with Metal Energy attached protected from Greninja's "Shadow Stitching" attack?

A. If Magearna EX has a Metal Energy attached to it, all Pokemon with Metal Energy attached are protected; however, if Magearna EX does not have a Metal Energy attached to it, its Mystic Heart Ability is shut off and no Pokemon with Metal Energy attached are protected.

(Feb 2, 2017 TPCi Rules Team)

See gamelog below:

 

Spoiler

 

Mew3 gets prism energy @ 67.

Magearna gets prism energy @ 94.

Shadow Stitching @ 132.

Successful attack with Mew3 @ 135.

Shadow Stitching again @ 188. After that point, everything was shut off unless I used Pokemon Ranger.

 

Game Log Output Begins Here:
    1. CiciZhao flipped 1 coin(s), resulting in 1 heads and 0 tails, for Beginning of Game.
    2. It is now Begbie00's turn (Turn #1).
    3. CiciZhao drew a card.
    4. Begbie00 drew Mewtwo & Mew-GX.
    5. CiciZhao drew a card.
    6. Begbie00 drew VS Seeker.
    7. CiciZhao drew a card.
    8. Begbie00 drew Guzma.
    9. CiciZhao drew a card.
    10. Begbie00 drew Trainers' Mail.
    11. CiciZhao drew a card.
    12. Begbie00 drew Dedenne-GX.
    13. CiciZhao drew a card.
    14. Begbie00 drew Dedenne-GX.
    15. CiciZhao drew a card.
    16. Begbie00 drew Double Colorless Energy.
    17. Mewtwo & Mew-GX became Begbie00's new Active Pokémon.
    18. Begbie00 drew N.
    19. Begbie00 attached a Double Colorless Energy to Mewtwo & Mew-GX.
    20. Begbie00 played Trainers' Mail.
    21. Begbie00 drew Dimension Valley.
    22. Begbie00 played N.
    23. Begbie00 drew Oranguru.
    24. Begbie00 drew Mewtwo & Mew-GX.
    25. Begbie00 drew Guzma.
    26. Begbie00 drew Float Stone.
    27. Begbie00 drew Noivern-GX.
    28. Begbie00 drew VS Seeker.
    29. CiciZhao drew a card.
    30. CiciZhao drew a card.
    31. CiciZhao drew a card.
    32. CiciZhao drew a card.
    33. CiciZhao drew a card.
    34. CiciZhao drew a card.
    35. Begbie00 put Oranguru onto the Bench.
    36. Begbie00 put Mewtwo & Mew-GX onto the Bench.
    37. Begbie00 attached a Float Stone to Oranguru.
    38. It is now CiciZhao's turn (Turn #2).
    39. CiciZhao drew a card.
    40. CiciZhao put Froakie onto the Bench.
    41. It is now Begbie00's turn (Turn ****
    42. Begbie00 drew Trainers' Mail.
    43. Begbie00 played Trainers' Mail.
    44. Begbie00 played VS Seeker.
    45. Begbie00 played N.
    46. Begbie00 drew Battle Compressor Team Flare Gear.
    47. Begbie00 drew Magearna-EX.
    48. Begbie00 drew Guzma.
    49. Begbie00 drew Alolan Ninetales-GX.
    50. Begbie00 drew Shaymin-EX.
    51. Begbie00 drew Trainers' Mail.
    52. CiciZhao drew a card.
    53. CiciZhao drew a card.
    54. CiciZhao drew a card.
    55. CiciZhao drew a card.
    56. CiciZhao drew a card.
    57. CiciZhao drew a card.
    58. Begbie00 put Magearna-EX onto the Bench.
    59. Begbie00 played Battle Compressor Team Flare Gear.
    60. Begbie00 put Shaymin-EX onto the Bench.
    61. Begbie00's Shaymin-EX used its Set Up Ability.
    62. Begbie00 drew Battle Compressor Team Flare Gear.
    63. Begbie00 drew Float Stone.
    64. Begbie00 drew Computer Search.
    65. Begbie00 played Computer Search.
    66. Begbie00 drew Prism Energy.
    67. Begbie00 attached a Prism Energy to Mewtwo & Mew-GX.
    68. Begbie00 played Battle Compressor Team Flare Gear.
    69. Begbie00's Oranguru used its Instruct Ability.
    70. Begbie00 drew Dedenne-GX.
    71. Begbie00 attached a Float Stone to Magearna-EX.
    72. Begbie00 played Trainers' Mail.
    73. Begbie00 drew Battle Compressor Team Flare Gear.
    74. Begbie00 put Dedenne-GX onto the Bench.
    75. Begbie00 drew Prism Energy.
    76. Begbie00 drew Dimension Valley.
    77. Begbie00 drew Faba.
    78. Begbie00 drew Professor Juniper.
    79. Begbie00 drew Prism Energy.
    80. Begbie00 drew Battle Compressor Team Flare Gear.
    81. Begbie00 played Dimension Valley.
    82. Begbie00's Mewtwo & Mew-GX used Distort and did 50 damage to CiciZhao's Staryu.
    83. It is now CiciZhao's turn (Turn #4).
    84. CiciZhao drew a card.
    85. CiciZhao played Green's Exploration.
    86. CiciZhao drew Brooklet Hill.
    87. CiciZhao drew Teammates.
    88. CiciZhao played Brooklet Hill.
    89. CiciZhao played Brooklet Hill.
    90. CiciZhao put Froakie onto the Bench.
    91. CiciZhao attached a Water Energy to Froakie.
    92. It is now Begbie00's turn (Turn #5).
    93. Begbie00 drew Professor Juniper.
    94. Begbie00 attached a Prism Energy to Magearna-EX.
    95. Begbie00's Mewtwo & Mew-GX used Distort and did 50 damage to CiciZhao's Staryu.
    96. CiciZhao's Staryu was Knocked Out.
    97. Begbie00 took a Prize card.
    98. Froakie became CiciZhao's new Active Pokémon.
    99. It is now CiciZhao's turn (Turn #6).
    100. CiciZhao drew a card.
    101. CiciZhao played Teammates.
    102. CiciZhao drew a card.
    103. CiciZhao drew a card.
    104. Frogadier became CiciZhao's new Active Pokémon.
    105. CiciZhao's Froakie evolved into Frogadier.
    106. CiciZhao played Brooklet Hill.
    107. CiciZhao put Staryu onto the Bench.
    108. CiciZhao's Frogadier used its Water Duplicates attack.
    109. CiciZhao put Frogadier onto the Bench.
    110. It is now Begbie00's turn (Turn #7).
    111. Begbie00 drew Double Colorless Energy.
    112. Begbie00's Mewtwo & Mew-GX used Mist Slash and did 130 damage to CiciZhao's Frogadier.
    113. CiciZhao's Frogadier was Knocked Out.
    114. Begbie00 took a Prize card.
    115. Frogadier became CiciZhao's new Active Pokémon.
    116. It is now CiciZhao's turn (Turn #8).
    117. CiciZhao drew a card.
    118. Greninja became CiciZhao's new Active Pokémon.
    119. CiciZhao's Frogadier evolved into Greninja.
    120. CiciZhao attached a Water Energy to Greninja.
    121. CiciZhao played Green's Exploration.
    122. CiciZhao drew Super Rod.
    123. CiciZhao drew Rotom Dex.
    124. CiciZhao played Rotom Dex.
    125. CiciZhao played Super Rod.
    126. CiciZhao played Field Blower.
    127. CiciZhao played Evosoda.
    128. CiciZhao put Frogadier onto the Bench.
    129. CiciZhao's Froakie evolved into Frogadier.
    130. CiciZhao played Brooklet Hill.
    131. CiciZhao put Froakie onto the Bench.
    132. CiciZhao's Greninja used Shadow Stitching and did 40 damage to Begbie00's Mewtwo & Mew-GX.
    133. It is now Begbie00's turn (Turn #9).
    134. Begbie00 drew Mewtwo & Mew-GX.
    135. Begbie00's Mewtwo & Mew-GX used Mist Slash and did 130 damage to CiciZhao's Greninja.
    136. CiciZhao's Greninja was Knocked Out.
    137. Begbie00 took a Prize card.
    138. Frogadier became CiciZhao's new Active Pokémon.
    139. It is now CiciZhao's turn (Turn #10).
    140. CiciZhao drew a card.
    141. Greninja became CiciZhao's new Active Pokémon.
    142. CiciZhao's Frogadier evolved into Greninja.
    143. CiciZhao played Dive Ball.
    144. CiciZhao drew Starmie.
    145. CiciZhao put Starmie onto the Bench.
    146. CiciZhao's Staryu evolved into Starmie.
    147. CiciZhao played Cynthia.
    148. CiciZhao drew a card.
    149. CiciZhao drew a card.
    150. CiciZhao drew a card.
    151. CiciZhao drew a card.
    152. CiciZhao drew a card.
    153. CiciZhao drew a card.
    154. CiciZhao put Frogadier onto the Bench.
    155. CiciZhao's Froakie evolved into Frogadier.
    156. CiciZhao played Brooklet Hill.
    157. CiciZhao put Froakie onto the Bench.
    158. CiciZhao's Greninja retreated.
    159. Froakie became CiciZhao's new Active Pokémon.
    160. It is now Begbie00's turn (Turn #11).
    161. Begbie00 drew Dimension Valley.
    162. Begbie00 played Trainers' Mail.
    163. Begbie00 drew Stealthy Hood.
    164. Begbie00 attached a Stealthy Hood to Magearna-EX.
    165. Begbie00 attached a Fighting Fury Belt to Mewtwo & Mew-GX.
    166. Begbie00's Mewtwo & Mew-GX used Distort and did 60 damage to CiciZhao's Froakie.
    167. CiciZhao's Froakie was Knocked Out.
    168. Begbie00 took a Prize card.
    169. Greninja became CiciZhao's new Active Pokémon.
    170. It is now CiciZhao's turn (Turn #12).
    171. CiciZhao drew a card.
    172. Greninja BREAK became CiciZhao's new Active Pokémon.
    173. CiciZhao's Greninja evolved into Greninja BREAK.
    174. CiciZhao attached a Splash Energy to Greninja BREAK.
    175. CiciZhao played N.
    176. CiciZhao drew a card.
    177. CiciZhao drew a card.
    178. CiciZhao drew a card.
    179. CiciZhao drew a card.
    180. CiciZhao drew a card.
    181. CiciZhao drew a card.
    182. Begbie00 drew Battle Compressor Team Flare Gear.
    183. Begbie00 drew Mewtwo & Mew-GX.
    184. CiciZhao's Greninja BREAK used its Giant Water Shuriken Ability.
    185. Begbie00's Mewtwo & Mew-GX had 6 damage counters put on it from Giant Water Shuriken.
    186. CiciZhao's Starmie used its Space Beacon Ability.
    187. CiciZhao played Brooklet Hill.
    188. CiciZhao's Greninja BREAK used Shadow Stitching and did 40 damage to Begbie00's Mewtwo & Mew-GX.
    189. It is now Begbie00's turn (Turn #13).
    190. Begbie00 drew Professor Juniper.
    191. Begbie00 played Professor Juniper.
    192. Begbie00 drew Ultra Ball.
    193. Begbie00 drew Pokémon Ranger.
    194. Begbie00 drew Faba.
    195. Begbie00 drew Jirachi-GX.
    196. Begbie00 drew Shaymin-EX.
    197. Begbie00 drew Dedenne-GX.
    198. Begbie00 drew Mewtwo & Mew-GX.
    199. It is now CiciZhao's turn (Turn #14).
    200. CiciZhao drew a card.
    201. CiciZhao put Greninja onto the Bench.
    202. CiciZhao's Frogadier evolved into Greninja.
    203. CiciZhao's Greninja BREAK used its Giant Water Shuriken Ability.
    204. Begbie00's Mewtwo & Mew-GX had 6 damage counters put on it from Giant Water Shuriken.
    205. CiciZhao attached a Splash Energy to Greninja.
    206. CiciZhao played Rescue Stretcher.
    207. CiciZhao played Brooklet Hill.
    208. CiciZhao put Froakie onto the Bench.
    209. CiciZhao's Greninja BREAK used Shadow Stitching and did 40 damage to Begbie00's Mewtwo & Mew-GX.
    210. It is now Begbie00's turn (Turn #***.
    211. Begbie00 drew VS Seeker.
    212. Begbie00 played Pokémon Ranger.
    213. Begbie00's Mewtwo & Mew-GX used its Ice Path GX attack.
    214. CiciZhao's Greninja BREAK was Knocked Out.
    215. Begbie00 took a Prize card.
    216. Greninja became CiciZhao's new Active Pokémon.
    217. It is now CiciZhao's turn (Turn #16).
    218. CiciZhao drew a card.
    219. CiciZhao played Dive Ball.
    220. CiciZhao drew Greninja BREAK.
    221. Greninja BREAK became CiciZhao's new Active Pokémon.
    222. CiciZhao's Greninja evolved into Greninja BREAK.
    223. CiciZhao played Dive Ball.
    224. CiciZhao drew Frogadier.
    225. CiciZhao put Frogadier onto the Bench.
    226. CiciZhao's Froakie evolved into Frogadier.
    227. CiciZhao's Greninja BREAK used its Giant Water Shuriken Ability.
    228. Begbie00's Mewtwo & Mew-GX had 6 damage counters put on it from Giant Water Shuriken.
    229. CiciZhao played Professor Sycamore.
    230. CiciZhao drew a card.
    231. CiciZhao drew a card.
    232. CiciZhao drew a card.
    233. CiciZhao drew a card.
    234. CiciZhao drew a card.
    235. CiciZhao drew a card.
    236. CiciZhao drew a card.
    237. CiciZhao played Level Ball.
    238. CiciZhao drew Frogadier.
    239. CiciZhao's Starmie used its Space Beacon Ability.
    240. CiciZhao played Brooklet Hill.
    241. CiciZhao's Greninja BREAK used Shadow Stitching and did 40 damage to Begbie00's Mewtwo & Mew-GX.
    242. It is now Begbie00's turn (Turn #17).
    243. Begbie00 drew Double Colorless Energy.
    244. Begbie00 played Faba.
    245. CiciZhao's Splash Energy was moved to the Lost Zone.
    246. Begbie00 played Ultra Ball.
    247. Begbie00 drew Tapu Lele-GX.
    248. It is now CiciZhao's turn (Turn #18).
    249. CiciZhao drew a card.
    250. CiciZhao played Dive Ball.
    251. CiciZhao drew Greninja.
    252. CiciZhao put Greninja onto the Bench.
    253. CiciZhao's Frogadier evolved into Greninja.
    254. CiciZhao played Field Blower.
    255. CiciZhao's Greninja BREAK used its Giant Water Shuriken Ability.
    256. Begbie00's Mewtwo & Mew-GX had 6 damage counters put on it from Giant Water Shuriken.
    257. CiciZhao played N.
    258. CiciZhao drew a card.
    259. CiciZhao drew a card.
    260. CiciZhao drew a card.
    261. CiciZhao drew a card.
    262. CiciZhao drew a card.
    263. CiciZhao drew a card.
    264. Begbie00 drew Double Colorless Energy.
    265. CiciZhao attached a Water Energy to Greninja BREAK.
    266. CiciZhao's Greninja BREAK used Shadow Stitching and did 40 damage to Begbie00's Mewtwo & Mew-GX.
    267. It is now Begbie00's turn (Turn #19).
    268. Begbie00 drew VS Seeker.
    269. Begbie00 played VS Seeker.
    270. Begbie00 played Pokémon Ranger.
    271. Begbie00's Mewtwo & Mew-GX used Rage and did 220 damage to CiciZhao's Greninja BREAK.
    272. CiciZhao's Greninja BREAK was Knocked Out.
    273. Begbie00 took a Prize card.
    274. You took all of your Prize cards to win the game!

Game Log Output Ends Here

 

 

Edited by Mod_GuruLot
spoiler tags included to reduce the post size

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Mod_GuruLot
2 hours ago, Begbie00 said:

This seems like it's broken, though perhaps it's a Prism Energy issue instead of Magearna EX.

 

If Magearna has a metal energy on it, it is supposed to prevent the effect of Shadow Stitching on itself and, via its own ability, on any other Pokemon. See below game log where this didn't happen.

 

Q. If Magearna EX with the "Mystic Heart" Ability is in play, are all Pokemon with Metal Energy attached protected from Greninja's "Shadow Stitching" attack?

A. If Magearna EX has a Metal Energy attached to it, all Pokemon with Metal Energy attached are protected; however, if Magearna EX does not have a Metal Energy attached to it, its Mystic Heart Ability is shut off and no Pokemon with Metal Energy attached are protected.

(Feb 2, 2017 TPCi Rules Team)

See gamelog below:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

Hello @Begbie00

 

Thank you for updating this topic with the game log. Now it can be reviewed to see if it's a bug. 

 

I've gone ahead and edited your post to include spoiler tags to reduce the game log size.

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