Feedback: Dev Update - Versus Rewards, New Layout & Stomped Bugs

[TPCi_Samhayne]

Please use this thread to post your feedback to the recent announcement: Dev Update: Versus Rewards, New Layout & Stomped Bugs.

[MaSkullzOnFire]

I love the look of the new home screen. It looks a lot tidier, it has to be said. Some questions do spring to mind though:

 

How will the Versus Points work exactly? Because if it's just from a complete match then this system is going to get abused quite often by players starting a match and then conceding.

That being said will it be 1 point per match completion?

Will the rewards be tradeable?

[Aniketdianafury]

Wow ! I really loved the front page layout along with those versus points rewards . Well done dev_team and keep improving PTCGO day by day . And getting full arts and pokemon-EX will be easier than before .

[sterlingW]

I love the look of the new home screen. It looks a lot tidier, it has to be said. Some questions do spring to mind though:

 

How will the Versus Points work exactly? Because if it's just from a complete match then this system is going to get abused quite often by players starting a match and then conceding.

That being said will it be 1 point per match completion?

Will the rewards be tradeable?

 

This claim "conceding" everyone have right do so,

but are they getting rewarded not as much as winners (their rewards worth like 2 to 3 games while losers rewards worth almost to zero games) I dont know why the complaining for the winners is still active when they are getting rewarded x2 to x3 better than losers

[TPCi_Samhayne]

The only way to advance in the Versus Rewards Ladder is to win Versus games.

[DesDaddy]

That being said will it be 1 point per match completion?

Will the rewards be tradeable?

 

Would love to see those two questions that MaSkullzOnFire asked, answered...

 

About the bugs being stomped, that is great news to hear, and we all cross our fingers regarding that.

 

About the new screen layout, user friendly and clear instructions for newer players will be very helpful.

 

A couple initial concerns about the Versus Rewards, it seems like it could be "rich getting richer" since you only get points when you win.  So, new players (that will be enticed because of this cool new feature) will get turned off because they don't have good cards/decks so they will continually lose.  They will continually lose to players with good cards/decks, and those "rich" players will keep getting richer.  Hopefully I'm wrong, and again, just initial quick thoughts..

 

I also have initial concerns about values of cards being changed by being a Versus Reward.  When a Canadian player gets charged $12 of real life money to purchase one promo card (300 gems), it would be a travesty to have that card be a Versus Reward and be free.  It would be stealing money from Canadians.  So something there would have to change (give the Canadian exact money back or something).  So I have a concern about what cards will be Versus Rewards, I surely hope it's not like the Darkrai FA promo and Giratina FA promo fiasco..where when Canadians spent $150 real life money on those playsets, they ended up being free from the wheel a month or two later.  So, I hope that same doesn't happen with Versus Rewards and cards that have value like that.  Devaluing those cards like that would be tragic.

 

Ok, a couple initial thoughts.  Thanks for the vine,

 

Des

[Helshi]

I have questions about versus rewards (cards):

 

1. Are they only from XY series sets?

2. Are they only non-foil versions?

[Aniketdianafury]

I have questions about versus rewards (cards):

 

1. Are they only from XY series sets?

2. Are they only non-foil versions?

 

Yeah i was going to ask the same , will the versus rewards (cards) will be only from XY series . Or we will be getting cards from HGSS and BW era as well like any legend piece , pokemon prime or SR cards .

[Mefftu]

As some of the questions raised from

 

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Will the rewards be tradeable?

and this

 

I have questions about versus rewards (cards):

 

1. Are they only from XY series sets?

2. Are they only non-foil versions?

I think as it comes with wins in getting the vs points one could think the rewards might be tradable. Though when looking at the current Daily Challenges it may be non-tradable for obvious reasons too. Eventually atleast some unknown things can be kept as a 'small secret' before we all go crazy and ask why that is 'tradable' or why it is 'non-tradable'.

 

 

1.When we look at the current rewards from the DC we can assume all rewards are from the XY-sets. And those are the examples given from SamHayne too.

2.Honestly I see no reason to include from the development section others as the regular set cards, so all non-foil cards or when the card is a holo-rare card as the regular card then this particular 'common' version will be the given card.

[Brio97]

I just want to ask if in the next client version, the problem with cards that are tagged for trade. There are some cards that I don't have anymore in my binder but they are still tagged for trade. This causes some traders sent me cards that I don't have. It was a very annoying problem not only for me but also for many players. I think the dev team can show me the number of copies of a card that a player has so that we can easily make trades with other players

 

That was just my point of view. I hope there is a way to solve the problem.

[MaSkullzOnFire]

This claim "conceding" everyone have right do so,

but are they getting rewarded not as much as winners (their rewards worth like 2 to 3 games while losers rewards worth almost to zero games) I dont know why the complaining for the winners is still active when they are getting rewarded x2 to x3 better than losers

Because we actually want to play the game; also I am not against players conceding so long as it is for a legitimate reason.

 

But it doesn't matter any more as Samhayne has answered the question.

[DesDaddy]

I have questions about versus rewards (cards):

 

1. Are they only from XY series sets?

2. Are they only non-foil versions?

 

 

Yeah i was going to ask the same , will the versus rewards (cards) will be only from XY series . Or we will be getting cards from HGSS and BW era as well like any legend piece , pokemon prime or SR cards .

 

 

As some of the questions raised from

 

and this

 

I think as it comes with wins in getting the vs points one could think the rewards might be tradable. Though when looking at the current Daily Challenges it may be non-tradable for obvious reasons too. Eventually atleast some unknown things can be kept as a 'small secret' before we all go crazy and ask why that is 'tradable' or why it is 'non-tradable'.

 

 

1.When we look at the current rewards from the DC we can assume all rewards are from the XY-sets. And those are the examples given from SamHayne too.

2.Honestly I see no reason to include from the development section others as the regular set cards, so all non-foil cards or when the card is a holo-rare card as the regular card then this particular 'common' version will be the given card.

 

It is stated in a couple places that FA cards will be given out as Versus Rewards, and SamHayne already showed us that Pokemon Fan Club FA will be a Versus Reward, here, I'll quote him here: : This first ladder will feature grass type cards, included 2 opportunities to obtain a Venusaur EX card!  At the very top of this first ladder will be a full art Pokémon Fan Club card."  So it seems Question #2 of Helshi is already answered, it won't be just non-foil versions of cards but will be FA versions as well.  Unless you mean regular version of a card vs. it's reverse version, that's probably what you mean, my bad.  So, reverse Xerneas XY will it be available, or only the regular XY version of Xerneas, for example.  After re-reading maybe that's what you meant, but I post the above just in case so people see that FA cards will be available as well.

 

Looking forward to seeing these 2 questions below answered:

 

1.  Will it be 1 point per match victory?

2.  Will the rewards be tradeable?

 

As I have strong thoughts on number 2 for short term and long term dynamic.

 

Thanks!

 

Des

[Aniketdianafury]

What happens if FA darkrai or FA mewtwo comes out as a reward through these versus points and by chance they become tradeable then they will fall down in value by 50 % or maybe 75 % (just an idea) . So i hope that these versus points does not offer such kind of rewards which may impact other ultra rare cards value and other thing that i want to say that please offer 3-4 versus point for winning each battle because winning 150 or 200 matches for just 1 Versus point is not easy for everyone though .

[harshu]

Sorry for this mega reply. But I really want to share my thoughts with other players !

That being said will it be 1 point per match completion?
Will the rewards be tradeable?

I also have these 2 Questions and so have many players who have posted above. It would be nice if they were tradeable and it should be the better the match, more the points to both players. So we could use the system of calcualting points that is used in Trainer Challenge

 

This claim "conceding" everyone have right do so,

but are they getting rewarded not as much as winners (their rewards worth like 2 to 3 games while losers rewards worth almost to zero games) I dont know why the complaining for the winners is still active when they are getting rewarded x2 to x3 better than losers

We are here to play. I don't even care if I don't get that many rewards. PVP is a deck testing base. The real reward place is tournaments. We want to get a good play. Not people conceding without reasons. Of course some people will have issues in IRL which can be understood. But most times this isn't the case. So its a big issues.

 

The only way to advance in the Versus Rewards Ladder is to win Versus games.

Seems to be good for winners. But what about players who made up 15 minutes in a game which went so intense annd he ends up losing just because he didn't had a card to beat opponent or couldn't get lucky with one flip. It would be just like in old days, when you play like 20 minutes in a match and even if you win. You end up getting 3 tokens from the wheel. Players do feel disappointed. So why not, change the mechanism of Wheel and make it how good the match was by using the points system used in Trainer Challenge ? Just a suggestion

About the new screen layout, user friendly and clear instructions for newer players will be very helpful.

 

A couple initial concerns about the Versus Rewards, it seems like it could be "rich getting richer" since you only get points when you win.  So, new players (that will be enticed because of this cool new feature) will get turned off because they don't have good cards/decks so they will continually lose.  They will continually lose to players with good cards/decks, and those "rich" players will keep getting richer.  Hopefully I'm wrong, and again, just initial quick thoughts..

 

I also have initial concerns about values of cards being changed by being a Versus Reward.  When a Canadian player gets charged $12 of real life money to purchase one promo card (300 gems), it would be a travesty to have that card be a Versus Reward and be free.  It would be stealing money from Canadians.  So something there would have to change (give the Canadian exact money back or something).  So I have a concern about what cards will be Versus Rewards, I surely hope it's not like the Darkrai FA promo and Giratina FA promo fiasco..where when Canadians spent $150 real life money on those playsets, they ended up being free from the wheel a month or two later.  So, I hope that same doesn't happen with Versus Rewards and cards that have value like that.  Devaluing those cards like that would be tragic.

 

Ok, a couple initial thoughts.  Thanks for the vine,

 

Des

For the first thing, yes a Guide would be helpful. Second I do agree that rich getting richer. But if we actually repair the ranking in PVP. New Players would win. Though I would like to see these versus points on the basis of points as stated above in my post. Using a points system for determining the wheel and Versus points for both loser and winner is pretty good

                            Hey Des, I wanted to suggest something. I guess its a kind of Unfair. But I just wanted to share my thoughts about the promo cards you are talking. Well Gems not available in my country. No real cards available in my country nor can we play pokemon here in real life. So now the only place is Online. Here some of us would love to have a very good 100% collection. But with some unobtainables, we aren't able to get more than 98% . So, why not if canada guys have bought the promo with real money. So only those with gems that means candians. Must be allowed to return some cards for the respective gems, as they can now get it through versus points. While they could buy other cards or sleeves that are unobtainable with those gems. How would that be ? I know kinda unfair. But what do you think ?

1. Are they only from XY series sets?

I am also curious to know this

 

I think as it comes with wins in getting the vs points one could think the rewards might be tradable. Though when looking at the current Daily Challenges it may be non-tradable for obvious reasons too. Eventually atleast some unknown things can be kept as a 'small secret' before we all go crazy and ask why that is 'tradable' or why it is 'non-tradable'.

 

1.When we look at the current rewards from the DC we can assume all rewards are from the XY-sets. And those are the examples given from SamHayne too.

2.Honestly I see no reason to include from the development section others as the regular set cards, so all non-foil cards or when the card is a holo-rare card as the regular card then this particular 'common' version will be the given card.

For the first thing, what you say maybe possible. Secondly, I think I would like to correct. But back then in the forums there was a question where players asked what we get after reaching level 3. Some 5-6 Players replied. If you get a random booster challenge it gives you older packs. And I also recieve BCR and Plasma Packs from some challenges. I am not sure about packs before them. But some of those players said they got locked BW Packs for some challengs. Sorry couldn't find the thread for putting on to reference.

I agree with Des , if FA darkrai or FA mewtwo comes out as a reward through these versus points and by chance they become tradeable then they will fall down in value by 50 % or maybe 75 %. So i hope that these versus points does not offer such kind of rewards which may impact other ultra rare cards value and other thing that i want to say that please offer 3-4 versus point for winning each battle because winning 150 or 200 matches for just 1 Versus point is not easy for everyone though .

Well he wasn't tellking about FA Cards. He was talking about Promo cards that can't be pull. Just Correcting !

 

Well Thats all what I had to reply, sorry for going long. Thanks ! Overall this seems to be a very good update. Looking forward to it

[DesDaddy]

harshu,

 

I think you are confused a bit.  the cards that Canadians get via gems are the same cards we can get with tokens.  Canadians do not have access to "extra" cards that anyone else cannot get.  so your whole paragraph there does not make sense, sorry, because you can have the exact same highest possible collection %, without ever using a gem or having to trade for a card, because you can use tokens to get the exact same cards.

 

if you do want tradeable versions of those cards, then offer a Canadian equivalent value of items for the real life money they paid for the gems for those tradeable cards, and get a tradeable version off them that way.  or use public, etc. 

 

you have to blame PTCGO for charging as many gems as they do for these cards.  I just cannot see how anyone can condone what PTCGO has done to Canadians (last year charging them $150 real life CAN dollars for a playset of Darkrai FA promo and Giratina FA promo and then releasing those cards for free on the wheel shortly after).  my concern above is with Versus Rewards, that PTCGO will do a similar thing.  releasing items through Versus Rewards that Canadians paid a lot of money for and then now they are free with Versus Rewards.  Similar with high valued cards as well, but I digress..

 

I don't understand the 2nd half of your paragraph to me, I'm sorry.  but this thread is about feedback about july update, so we can take our correspondence somewhere else.  I'm concerned about what PTCGO is doing with tradeable or locked, and the long term ramifications of it, but we'll see what the answer is to the above 2 questions that MaSkullzOnFire first asked, that I've echoed.

 

cheers,

 

Des

[harshu]

Des, I Certainly understand what you said. But generally people won't trade those cards. Since they would say its for their collection. Another thing to what my second half of the paragraph said was exchanging those promo cards back with TCG, but then it won't have a meaning which I certainly realised after reading you post. So just ignore it now. It was just a concern for tradeable cards nothing else. And I suggested this here. Because some people made 2-3 Threads over a promo card that was very good but couldn't get in time. So actually I suggested this because of that. Nothing else. Other things it alright for me The update is a good one

[DesDaddy]

if people wont trade those cards, use your tokens to get them yourself.  we all cant have our cake and eat it.  sometimes we have to choose between 2 good things.  I chose to get these cards with my tokens, but then that means saying no to something else that I cant use tokens for.  that's actually how real life works, lol.  but yeah, it seems ptcgo is trying to make tokens have more value, and this is one way they are doing that, good for them.  (there, that's feedback, lol, keeping this thread back on topic ).  looking forward to the update, fingers continually crossed regarding those questions above..

 

ps, ask around, I know Canadians who will trade them away.  sometimes good things take a lot of hard work..

[thetamale]

It wasn't mentioned will the Roaring Skies holo bug be fixed?

[Aniketdianafury]

Hey TPCi Sam , when this new client is going to come out , please release it before my bdday @ 4 July  or give it as a present to me 

[sterlingW]

This update should contain ability to enable/disable Pop-up Windows throughout the game. (Example Those Pop Up window when you inflict a status condition or about end your turn without attack they are very helpful some maybe annoying)

 

Deck Management (Were you create folders for your deck make it organized)

 

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Other note:

If they are planning to update next week than they will have 3 week before the New Pack Content Update.

[JamesPup]

I already have 4 Venusaur-EX and so I hope that these cards people can win will be tradable. Overall the look of everything looks better and nice. I see that players will get to see all four booster packs if wanted at the main screen instead of just one a day or what ever that is rotated. I'd like to add in that I am stuck in the daily challenges because I don't want to play the decks and cards that it says to do to get the rewards. So I know people are getting coins and deck covers that are untradable. I would like these things to be available in shop or to be trabelable as I want them but don't want to do the daily challenges which I hate. I love the idea of a versus challenge as I do versus matches every day. I think this one should replace the daily challenge all together. I would really like to get all of the grass Pokemon items people have won doing daily challenges and so why not add them as rewards people can get on the wheel then?

[OutlawGER]

Really excited to see the Versus Reward System.

 

Hopefully i can get a lot of tokens, lol.

[TEGSTER12]

How long will the maintenance last for?

[Aniketdianafury]

How long will the maintenance last for?

 

It depends on how the big update is . Usually it takes about 2-3 hours for shorter updates whereas longer (major) updates takes about 4-6 hours .

[TEGSTER12]

It depends on how the big update is . Usually it takes about 2-3 hours for shorter updates whereas longer (major) updates takes about 4-6 hours .

I guess we just have to be patient