Lit's HydroElectric Deck "Voltage Hurricane" V.1

[Litwickfan11]

Pokes:

 

Zekrom Ex x1

 

Tynamo Nv x1

 

Eelektric NV x1

 

Blitzle ND x2

 

Zebstrika ND x2

 

Wailmer TM x1

 

Wailord TM x1

 

Call for Family Nd Lapras x1

 

Frillish Nd x1

 

Jellicent Nd x1

 

2-2 Nd/Epo Cubchoo Line

 

Supporters

 

Biance

 

Cheren

 

Cilan

 

N all x1

 

Items:

 

(Energy Retrieval

 

Energy Retuner

 

Revive ) x1

 

Great Ball x2

 

Potion x4

 

Skyarrowbridge x1

 

Double Coloress Energy x1

 

Water Energyx16

 

Electric Energyx13

 

So, THis is stil lV.1, any Improvements. Lapras for getting Zek and Blitzle/Tynamo out. Cubchoo/Frillish line for Filler. Wailord for Whomping any EX Weak against it. Disconnect Seb for those pesky items, and besides that, a Pretty Standard Zeel...

 

So, any improvements? Also, this isn't the DEX version

 

[tyranitar20]

too many pokes, you need some catcher/collector, etc

 

[GR0]

Cut down that amount of energy to 20 or so. Especially considering you use stuff to get back energy. Most people would even suggest cutting down energy to 10 or so, so even what I'm suggesting is alot already (NOT my opinion though: too little energy never goes right no matter how great your Item/Supporter line is)

 

[Litwickfan11]

Ya, I agree, I'm really hoping to mow down the Energies With the new Blend Energies in the Dragon Sets....

 

@T-Tar, Not Really, I've been Pwned by people before....

 

The Sad thing is, I don't have a lot of cards, and 0 Packs....

 

[K3RUPT]

I'm sorry this is not a very good build, it's all over the place. Eels line should be at least 3-3 or 4-3, 3-2 or 4-3 the Zebstrika Line. If you're going to run Eels you might aswell run a deck full of Electric pokemon. I don't really see how the water pokemon and electric energy acceleration will go together. 29 Energies are WAY too much.

 

[GR0]

Well, if that's your problem, take a look at some of the Water/Lightning/Colorless cards you start with for free. Raichu, for example, quickly deals damage and retreats for free. Anything's better than 30 energy.

 

 

 

In fact, you won't even need to add more Pokemon. Where are the rest of your Items/Supporters? Engineer's Adjustments is perfect for so much energy, and it also dumps energy for Eelektrik to use. Professor Oak's New Theory is a great Supporter you definitely should've added, and there are more useful ones. And as for the Items, Pluspower and Dual Ball might be useful as well. Definitely more useful than Energy Returner, that's for sure!

 

 

 

Even if you haven't unlocked the 3 free decks, the basic Lightning deck has plenty of useful Supporters already, and Switch can't hurt either.

 

[Litwickfan11]

Ok GRO, thanks for the Advice!

 

[leader1234567]

um add a zekrom ex please

 

[daoneandonly]

I actually made a deck that's quite similar. Using ZekEels and Beartic.

 

However, not be offending you, but this is not good build at all. Here's why:

 

1. Lines of 1-1 Never work. There's chance your basic will get prized and if that happens your entire line fails. To get a good supportive role in place, like the Eels, you will definitely need at least a 3-3 or 4-3 line in there for an absolute chance this will make part out of your team in every game.

 

2. A Wailord line doesn't add op to the consistency of your deck. It's a slow card and will only slow you down here. No need for him. Also not sure what Frillish/Jellicent is doing there; Get them out ASAP.

 

3. Like 1-lines of pokémon, just a single trainer, most times will not work. Chance will be 1 out of 60 you will get that one you need. Terribles odds. Also try throwing in a couple of Pokémon Collectors. I'd suggest 2. This is a match-winning card if you can get it early in the game. Easy way to get your Tynamos/Eels and Zekrom out.

 

4. When running Eels, discard cards are your best friends. Engineer's Adjustments and Prof. Juniper are a excellent way to discard your lightning energies. There are also some Pokés too who include discarding energy (preferably Electric energy). (Raikou EX is a perfect example, however it's not playable on TCGO just yet)

 

5. When using a awful lot of Pokémon, Pokémon Communication is an awesome card to have in your deck. Using it in combination with a Collector, Eels are set up in no-time. Here I'd suggest using 3 P. Com. By the way, get out cards like Energy Retriever or Returner. No need for both since you're using Eels. Rather throw in a couple more Cilans.

 

6. As mentioned by other people 29 energies is way to many. The rule of thumb I use is 15 Including special energy. IMO, more than 15 is considered a high energy deck, and less than 10 is considered a low energy deck. I'd use 2 DCE and 10 Electric and 4 Water, comming down to 16 since this a pretty high energy deck. (That's when having Beartic and Lapras as your only water types)

 

I bet there a lot more points to improve, but I'll end here. I really suggest reading the thread on how to build a deck using the current format over at Sixprizes.com . --> Here's the link <-- I know it's a long read, but you'll end a much better deck builder in the end. It'll be worth your time It really did teach me a lot.

 

[Litwickfan11]

Well, I actually artead editted the deck thank you. So no, I already gotten the help I need, for now... I have a 3-2 Beartic Line Now

 

[Fred2222]

Here is a good deck I found that you might enjoy

 

 

 

x2 Zapdos Next Des.

 

x2 Ampharos HG/SS

 

x2 Flaaffy HG/SS

 

x2 Mareep COL

 

x1 Mareep HG/SS

 

x1 Luxray Next Des.

 

x1 Luxio Next Des.

 

x2 Shinx Next Des.

 

x3 Riachu Next. Des

 

x3 Pikachu Next Des.

 

x1 Zekrom B/W

 

x1 Minun HS Triumphant

 

Ampharos main purpose is to supply Energy to my other guys, as well as itself, if neccisary.

 

Luxray: He's here as a good, fast hitter, and can also fuel Zekroms' Outrage.

 

Raichu: An OK stall and hitter.

 

Zekrom: Put in to gain benefit from Luxray's Flash Impact. Also a decent tank.

 

Minun: An awesome starter, as Call for Family can summon Zekrom, Zapdos, and other lower guys.

 

Trainers:

 

x2 Super Scoop Up

 

x2 N

 

x2 Pokemon Center

 

x2 Energy Switch

 

x3 Energy Search

 

x1 Pokemon Circulator

 

x1 Energy Returner

 

x1 Rare Candy

 

x2 Life Herb

 

Super Scoop Up: Mainly for Zekrom and Zapdos, recovering Damage.

 

N: A good game starter when i don't have a hand that's worth it. By the way, who names their kid N?

 

PKMN Center: If I slip, this thing tricks me back up. I can't really explain it, it just helps.

 

Energy Switch: This deck needs Energy everywhere, so this is an OK pic.

 

Energy Search: When all else (or Ampharos) fails, Energy Search comes in.

 

PKMN Circulator: Comes in handy in times of distress.

 

Energy Returner: Zapdos usually discards 3-4 Energy when it rarely goes down, so this can refuel the deck.

 

Rare Candy: Mostly for Luxray, as I only have one Luxio and two Shinx.

 

Energy:

 

x19 Electric Energy

 

x4 Double Colorless Energy

 

I want any opinions that anyone has! I really think this deck could be great with another opinion's help.

 

It's modified for now, but not for too long.

 

[daoneandonly]

 

Well, I actually artead editted the deck thank you. So no, I already gotten the help I need, for now... I have a 3-2 Beartic Line Now

 

Well update your thread then! Post your new Deck list!! Some people might be curious how you've handeled the deck with all the advice.

 

Still, I believe you should never turn down any advice. Especially not when it comes to deckbuilding. I highly suggest you read this part and follow the link

 

I bet there a lot more points to improve, but I'll end here. I really suggest reading the thread on how to build a deck using the current format over at Sixprizes.com . --> Here's the link <-- I know it's a long read, but you'll end a much better deck builder in the end. It'll be worth your time It really did teach me a lot.

 

Again LINK HERE

 

Same goes for you Fred2222. Suggest reading the part about energies.

 

Also a little note by myself: There's no reason not run Eels in a full electric deck.

 

[created619]

Way too many energys. Only 1 Eelektrik line? No collectors, catchers, prof. oaks, junk arms?? That's stuff pretty much EVERY deck needs. Welcome to Pokemon TCG. You're obviously new to this game

 

[eevee0954]

 

Way too many energys. Only 1 Eelektrik line? No collectors, catchers, prof. oaks, junk arms?? That's stuff pretty much EVERY deck needs. Welcome to Pokemon TCG. You're obviously new to this game

 

 

No Lit's not new, he's been around on the forums, and possibly the games for a while, check the "Join Date" Under the "LitwickFan11"

 

[leader1234567]

um guys stay ontopic!!

 

[Litwickfan11]

THen don't revive old threads >_>

 

@Creator, Don't you think I know that!? I'm not as pack savvy as all of you are, so shut it, I'm tired of people "helping me" only for me to spend my money on non important things.

 

[daoneandonly]

 

THen don't revive old threads >_>

 

@Creator, Don't you think I know that!? I'm not as pack savvy as all of you are, so shut it, I'm tired of people "helping me" only for me to spend my money on non important things.

 

 

Hey, tone it down a bit! >:-(

 

First of all, how do you dare to shut people who are trying to help. You were asking if anyone had "any improvements?", didn't you? People are just responding to your question.

 

Also this decklist you posted, is poorly made, probably not even worthy of playing leagues. If you get upset with people criticizing your decks, don't post them in the first place.

 

Last but not least, If you're under the impression you can get a (solid) working deck together with just bunch of cheap cards you had lying around, you probably need the reconsider your deck building tactics. Or just wake up. Most good and consistent decks that are fun to play mainly have bunch of cards in common. They are wanted and thus the value goes up. If you think people suggesting adding those must-have-cards is a waste of money, don't freaking post here! And don't expect to get a working deck either. TCGs are fun hobby to have, but they sure are expensive! If you can't afford to build a decent deck, don't get mad at other people. It's not like they set up the prices.

 

 

 

PS: A bit of gratitude bro. People are actually spending time to think with your idea.

 

 

 

 

No Lit's not new, he's been around on the forums, and possibly the games for a while, check the "Join Date" Under the "LitwickFan11"

 

 

I don't see how being part of the forum games, tells whether a person is new to the Pokémon TCG. Do you?

 

[Fred2222]

I agree

 

[lonetraveller]

In lit's defense, the advice you give is honestly not too helpful. You tell him what he needs, and then you expect that he'll have just that card or cards to improve his deck. Maybe he doesn't have those cards, and it's not exactly like you can pick what card you get from booster packs.

 

Uggh. This thread's gonna get closed if this bickering continues.

 

[Fred2222]

Lone he is trying to say that you can not make a good deck out of cards you get from opening 30 packs.

 

My Durant deck cost 50 packs. You have to buy cards with packs, not get lucky and find them.

 

[WarVeteranJen]

Someone please help me. Im a newb. I installed it but only know how to get into the trainer battle mode. How do I get into my deck builder from the home page? Thats the biggest thing right now. Also how do I play people online? I really want to . Cant figure it out. Pretty please someone help me.

 

[daoneandonly]

 

In lit's defense, the advice you give is honestly not too helpful. You tell him what he needs, and then you expect that he'll have just that card or cards to improve his deck. Maybe he doesn't have those cards, and it's not exactly like you can pick what card you get from booster packs.

 

Uggh. This thread's gonna get closed if this bickering continues.

 

 

Alright! This is something I can work with

 

First of all, for some reason, I'm not sure whether you've read my first post. (If you haven't, please do. It's on the first page of this thread). That actually was my advice, as I tried to keep it structured and building it with arguments. Besides I would like to note, that these are Suggestions. I'm not commanding him to do anything other than he pleases. However, if you ask for help or comments in a thread such as this, you should be open for suggestions in the first place.

 

When it comes to deck building and commenting on other people's decks, there are a lot of people who tell you to minus this and add that, considering you know everything about all the cards they've mentioned. I can state I did more than that. I tried to incorporate the reasons why should add or lose some cards and why other cards might work better. It may be frustratring to see your idea get thorn apart, while you've spent so many hours adjusting and tweaking it. But know that sometimes you've need to loosen the ties a bit and have another person have a look. You might just come to the realization that you've just been blinded by an idea that you couldn't let go because you just put so much time in it. It may sound very deep stuff for 'just deckbuilding', but I know I've been there myself.

 

Also I'm not assuming he has have any of the cards I've mentioned. I'm just putting up ideas he can put in consideration. Talking on how to get those cards is entirely different topic. There are more ways than just boosters to get ahold of cards. This is a Pokémon Trading Card Game after all. Otherwise, buying singles is something he should consider, as it is far cheaper and for more reliable than buying a bunch of boosters and hoping you pull something you actually need in a specific deck, which is not very wise to do anyway. (That is if you are playing IRL. Never got if this was a TCG or IRL deck).Last thing about getting your hands on cards, and I've already pointed this out but I do want to mention it again: Card Games in general are very expensive hobbys, especially if you want to play it rather than just collect. and even more if you want to play competitively. You should always keep that in mind.

 

[lonetraveller]

 

Lone he is trying to say that you can not make a good deck out of cards you get from opening 30 packs.

 

My Durant deck cost 50 packs. You have to buy cards with packs, not get lucky and find them.

 

Well, lit apparently does not have 50 packs to work with.

 

Thank you, daoneandonly, for explaining yourself. I had read your first post, but, well, I simply forgot about it when I was writing my own post. The thought occurred to me that he could always trade for the cards while I was typing, but then again, a trade works both ways. While I'm sure many people would be willing to trade, there is always the if. That just seems to be the case - you can never be sure that you'll get a certain card. Although most of the cards you suggested were actually somewhat common. I suppose that I owe a general apology for my rage post. Some people had spoken contemptuously of lit, and in response I spoke before I thought. I was under the impression that all you guys in general were expecting him to have a great deck immediately. That was what I got from some of page 2's comments. I myself am a novice deck builder, but I have not installed the new player, so now I only get on for the forums. Anyway, I'll leave you guys to rating decks, and go back to my cave. I'm glad that I provided you with something you could work with.

 

[leader1234567]

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