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  1. All great things must come to an end, for obvious reasons I won't be playing the game when it transfers to the new TCG Live given my favourite format is Legacy, I'm a bit upset about the thousands of cards, gameplay and avatar items that I have which will be deleted and, most importantly, that there's no trading in the new game which is probably the most interesting part... There's a bit of a joke saying about PTCGO that every update makes it worse... this, sadly, is the worst update. Still I'm take some screenshots of my card completion before I leave for the memories.
    10 points
  2. No trading would make it very difficult for me to afford new stuff going forward and given all my excess stuff is going to be deleted it will basically be impossible for me to play since I rely mainly on using those to get new stuff. I also won't be able to use any of my thousands of packs that I have on the game with them gone too. Not to mention there is no compensation at all for any of the avatar stuff being deleted... I have tradeable Charizard, Donphan sets and Zoroark hairs all of which I have spent thousands of packs on. The new update is basically them saying... oh you've been playing too long we don't care about you at all and you need to quit. So I will quit, obviously, and you can bet Pokemon isn't going to be getting any more of my money either.
    8 points
  3. But the market didnt change because people "dont want certain products". The "market" is being closed totally, with trading being canceled (on a TRADING card game!!!). Do you want to use "market" and economics examples? This is like you having invested a lot and leaving all your years long hard earned money in a bank. And then said bank says "Oh we are moving to another bank....but dont worry we will move your money and stuff.....except the money you are not really using....and a lot of the older stuff, you dont need it because we dont care about it!!! OH, and in the new bank we are making it impossible for you to move assets!! Enjoy!!" :D. This is not dictated by market or players. This is a move dictated by Nintendo to make more money. In the Old TCG online, they used the game mostly for advertisal and to promote buying real life packs. With the new game....they are doing the same but adding "gems" and currencys that cost real life money. So that way, Nintendo makes more money. Funny thing, they are convincing some people that this is anything other than a cash grab. Trust me, the fact that they are prohibiting trading (a CENTRAL aspect of any TCG) means they dont care about concepts like "fun". They know the pokemon brand sells very easily, so they want to milk players as much as they can. This is a 100% money driven move. Im not ignorant. Thats how companies operate. I was just expecting a bit more respect, communication and care for players who are very dedicated and brought a lot to the game. Spitting them on the face is NEVER a good business move. You want your veterans to love the game and spread that love to the new players. Sadly, most new managment people around the world only see numbers, and then when they fail to meet expectations they scratch their heads (see the Pokemon Sword and Shield fiasco).
    7 points
  4. Its insane that they are removing the trading part of the game. Its one of the things that really makes it a complete game. Also, getting no compensation for having priceless HGSS era cards is a total spit in the face. I hope they reconsider, unless they want to create a really poisnous enviroment to start their game.
    7 points
  5. i started playing ptcgo in 2014 and spent a lot of my time collecting close to every card obtainable. now the pokemon company's latest cash grab to encourage in-game micro-transactions will render that 8 years of in game effort a near complete waste of time. the removal of the act of trading cards in a trading card game is an obvious attempt to force players who want to play competitively to spend real money for digital items, this decision shows how little this company cares about it's players previous dedication. i intend not to spend any money on any pokemon product from now on as a direct result of this company's choice, the thought of how willingly they destroy what players spent years working towards makes me sick. i would fully expect them to do it again eventually, as we've already seen all it takes is another rebrand and minor name change to justify everyone losing all their work over again. as every time the player base loses the majority of their in-game cards, packs, items, and currencies allows them to be subjected to predatory tactics to increase the efficiency of this game as a revenue generating machine.
    7 points
  6. This is what I was most shocked and disgusted by (and how people can support it). It's not the fact that stuff is being deleted and I may lose a few hundred thousand EVS worth of value in all my HGSS stuff, rare gameplay etc... I can't expect anyone to sympathise with that. It is the fact that they are giving absolutely nothing for any of it... HGSS packs aren't even gonna count towards the crystals. Avatar and gameplay are gonna get nothing even if you were Canadian and paid for that stuff with $. A total reset at least would be more respectful (though I am happy for other players sake that they didn't do this)... but to explicitly exclude HGSS stuff from any of the compensation sends a clear message: "you have played the game for 10+ years, ********* and you are not welcome in the new game. We don't care about you, in fact we're almost going out of our way to punish you." I can't think of any other company who would do that to long-term players. To explicitly punish them for the crime of having older stuff, of having been in the game longer.
    6 points
  7. Just feel that removing legacy cards is a negative ,especially given that some players would use those prints of cards in their decks. And the energy card artworks specifically look great Not as mad about the trading lobby going as others but not being able to trade with friends (found some fun playing with cousins over the restrictions) is quite disappointing, the best argument for removing trading I've heard has been about if your account is hacked and you then lose your best cards but at the same time some sort of 'best friend' system like in Pokémon Go that lets you trade at the end would counteract that and still promote using microtransactions in the meantime for the sake of TPCI's wallet. I look forward to hearing what you think .
    5 points
  8. incredible, the person calling someone a "simpleton" couldn't be bothered to properly read the sunset faq page and then proceeds to spew misinfo. LUL
    5 points
  9. A 30 second video, to turn 10 years into dust. The Pokemon company will never get another red cent from me.
    5 points
  10. I have a Charizard Collection Costume that was only obtainable through purchasing gems. People were charged real money why won't these transfer to live? I hope you will re consider Looking forward to the future of live but this is sad news.
    4 points
  11. Myself and MANY people I know have never put in a single cent on this game. It isnt that hard to work the trades a bit and eventually get what you want. HECK, Pokemon even emails you free tradable packs codes every 2 months....thats a pretty nice start. And you can get free codes a million ways (ie: playing the game, playing the theme deck tournaments, etc). Going from 0 to a meta deck is not that difficult. It takes some effort yes, but its doable. And yes...the game DOES have a P2W element, as players can buy and put a 1000 packs codes into the game. But the new game will make this WORSE, not better. Im not arguing about the "gambling" side. That is VERY obvious on a game where you can only buy mostly random stuff. I was talking in particular about the way companies manage what customers buy online and how property works in a virtual enviroment. The debate is still out there, and there are legal and ethical Lramifications. Right now you can buy pack codes for less than that. How is the game improving again?? No you are not forced. You can also buy IRL packs or get cheap pack codes online. RIGHT now you can do that. New game: no more trading. You lost something. You didnt win anything (other than the crafting system....which is stupidily slow if we go by what other games are doing). I didnt even play classic. Ive been playing since WoTLK to this day...and for years and years Blizzard took things away from the gameplay (mostly around our classes) and every time they tried ********** us it was "for the best". It is not. You want more options, not less. I think that we will never agree on anything. Im amazed people really thing that this new game is nothing but a quick cash grab. The current Pokemon Online was outdated, had a million flaws, it frustrated many of us....but it was a product of another era. Another era where milking players out of their money while providing the cheapest service possible wasnt the norm. (the old client IS cheapass....but at least the objetive of it wasnt to make inmediate money....it was just an advertisement product for the IRL game pretty much).
    4 points
  12. HAHA, well, of course you are included. Anyone who has played the game for 5+ years or so is a good ol veteran. Ive been at it since the awful looking, black-ish interface beta. Agree with all of that. More reason to take care of people who are RIGHT NOW playing the game they way Nintendo intends, that is, online only, like myself. This is assuming a lot. Not only have NOT they officialy mentioned the types of things you can buy (they have been very vague about it), but I have bad news for you.....every single TCG online out there is 100% random. Its basically impossible to buy a specific card with currency (except some promos or useless stuff). You buy packs and you luck your way into the cards you need. Or....YOU TRADE. On some of them at least. Question is...isnt it better for a new player to be able to buy packs AND also trade? Heck...thats how it started for me. I started with a measly 2 packs, and made good trades into a huge collection. I had the option to buy packs and put in codes. I had BOTH options. Now one of those is gone. And before you defend it.....you are being too hopeful in my opinion. You are waiting the best from a company (and a world of companies) that are showing that people are just numbers. Big companies act like that. There are MILLION ways to prevent the scenarios you are saying (block trading until you have played a minimum amount of hours, put a limit to the amount of currency you get so you are obligated to expend it instead of stockpiling, etc). I will ask a very simple question: does the TCG in real life work? Yes we know it does. And there are people who have ALL the cards, and stockpile cards, and they are sitting on cards who are worth $100.000. Has that made the game worse? New players start and 0 and they can easily start buying the new packs. That's what the Standard Format does in Pokemon and Magic.....it levels the playfield. It doesnt matter how much cards you have and how rare they are....the real format and the ones were the tournaments are played is one where you can easily get into. And a lot of the staple trainer cards repeat cicle after cicle, and pokemon has done a good job of providing those. You only need to get 4X of the regular version of a couple of cards. That is not that hard for a new player. And trading helped with that. If you are a new player, you will get some FA or secret rares you dont really need. A veteran will happily aim for those, and you can get back very quickly all that you need to play a powerful meta deck. Its so easy and obvious, and we have evidence it works IRL. You let the collectors collect, and that helps the newer players get the meta cards they need. Somehow, TPCi has conviced you there was a problem that needed solving. And they are not providing ANYTHING to solve it....just put more money to get ahead loL! There is something VERY wrong in my opinion when a player has been convinced to say "forget about trading, I want to put more MONEY into the game!". They did this VERY elegantly on the Beta of the game back in 2011. Whoever played the Beta got a nice Deck case, in a time where deck cases where very rare. It didnt affect the game balance at all, It didnt create an uneven playfield....it was just a nice gesture. Im fine with something like this....I dont expect an equal return for all those cards...JUST SOMETHING! They shouldnt be looking at that. The code that comes with IRL packs has ALREADY been paid. You already got money from it. Its just a nice little plus from buying real life cards. Nintendo shouldnt be competing with the black market of codes. Nintendo (TPCi or whatever you wanna call it) printed the codes and sold them in a pack. It should expect every single player to put the codes in. If some player decides to trade that code for money, for a hug or a pet dog...that is none of their business. Same thing If I want to sell my account. They cannot control that, and they shouldnt be so worried about that. You are still gonna make billions out of the game. Just block any posts on the forums trying to sell codes, and thats it. The new game doesnt even have chat or friends LOL....so no worries there.
    4 points
  13. The way online games and online "items" work is a subject of huge debate worldwide. Some countries are legislating about it, because for years companies have screwed people over many times. Of course servers of everything will eventually shut down. There is a risk on that. That doesn´t mean we should just take it in the gut silently. Personally, I was NEVER a stockpiller. In fact, whenever I had more than 4+ copies of a very playable card...I tried hard to trade it for cards I didnt have. I never saw the game as a "business". And I made smart trades and put i in the work to get access to the legacy cards....because that format is very fun (and MILES better than the dirtiness that Expanded is, or the mind blowing borefest that Standard is where every deck plays the same). About TPCi...the game sustained itself for what it was. It didn´t have microtransactions because it didn´t need them. The aim of the game was to promote the TCG and to ENTICE players to buy real life packs and use the real life cards. What happened is very simple: some executive up top saw the game and thought "HEY, we could be making money out of this, lets do it!". Its as simple as that. And they created a new game where it will impossible for players who dont spend a lot of money to keep up with the whales. That's the worst type of F2P that can exist....a clear pay to win. Instead of selling cosmetics, convenience, avatars.....they went the dark path. A game is NEVER healthy when you can cheat your way with money. And there is enough evidence not only from the Pokemon company and NIntendo, but from pretty much every single big gaming company that in 2021, milking players for a few short years while providing a subpar service is the business model to go. So no, I have 0 hopes of the new game being any decent. And the beauty of the old game is that if you didnt like trading....you werent force to do it. But it was there whenever you needed it and it was there for people who did like trading (like myself). A game is NEVER better when you are taking things away from it. And im a WoW player so I know what I am talking about.
    4 points
  14. The worst part is not getting ANY compensation for the huge collection of HGSS era cards. Some of us who love that era and played a lot of Legacy....we traded very costly prices with newer cards just to get access to the HGSS era cards. It took a loooong time and dedication to craft those decks. It would be nice to see something from Nintendo...SOMETHING, ANYTHING, in return for that. If you dont want to hand out more currency....then maybe a special avatar? A title? Something? I think we deserve a bit of love, as we are losing the most priceless part of our collection. Thats what a smart company does. They take care of their most loyal fanbase. You dont spit on their faces. Because that loyalty translates in them bringing new players and also even guiding them. But well, if you have been paying attention, Nintendo has been doing terrible business with the pokemon brand of late. Its a widespread company problem.
    4 points
  15. Its so frustrating that they dont even turn the old legacy cards into currency. Heck, at this point maybe give us something special to owners of a bunch of legacy cards? A FRICKIN SPECIAL HGSS SLEEVE? I dont know. SOMETHING to show appreciation for the thousands of hours, for the fact that they are taking our collections away.
    4 points
  16. Hi all. Don't know if there's anybody still lingering around here since I've been gone, but if you are one of them, hello as well lol. I decided to just hop onto this forum today to see what was new since I haven't played for like 8 months, and I am greeted by this. I really don't know what to say here. They're updating the game, which is fantastic. The client had become seriously outdated and it warrented some kind of improvement. Trades gone? On a trading card game client? What? I don't know about you all but this looks like a tactic to get people to spend. Trades were a great place to spend some time getting the cards you want. When you take away the only other way to get cards really outside of gambling through packs, it feels kind of like the well known "loot boxes". I know they'll be adding a Battle Pass but I have my own thoughts with those as well. Legacy still gone? Dumb. I don't understand that decision to leave it out seeing that people have been really wanting it back for some time. You all missed out on a golden opportunity to bring it back. Battle Passes? ......Look, the concept is cool around these, but they are such a coin flip to me in gaming. These things are either very well designed and accesible to all, or complete cash grabs in my experience. This'll be interesting. Few key things I felt like pointing out. I really don't want to be negative here. I've been wanting an updated client for awhile, and I'm getting it, but........ Overall my verdict is that this all looks highly "sus", but I feel it would be wrong of me to not at least give it a shot. Stay well.
    3 points
  17. As already know there will no longer be "TRADING" in the game when it get replaced so the game should not be advertised as "Pokémon Trading Card Game Live" instead it best be called "Pokémon Card Game Live"
    3 points
  18. The Events section of PTCGO displays the message "no tournaments are currently being run", along with a link to the Forums. But I didn't see any actual thread on here about this, so I thought I'd start one. Can anyone at Pokemon provide additional information on this? I know a lot of folks had tickets remaining. I'm guessing this means Live is coming soon, which is exciting!
    3 points
  19. Just dropping by to say hi everyone (and most likely this is my very last time too). Since I've been away from the forum for several years, so let me introduce myself: I'm a Beta player. In fact, one of the earliest ever (I created my TGCO account the very minute the Beta server comes online, which is rather tough for me since I'm in the GMT +8.00 time zone). Check out my avatar, I'm wearing a PaxEast2011 shirt, which is the first ever redeemable code. In the past 10 years, I'm really grateful to the TCGO community and the mods. Thanks to TCGO, I was able to keep up with PTCG all this years. In real life, the PTCG scene in my country had a turn for the worst. Most of the existing players reaches teenage/young adult phase, so the local scene is unruly (duh!). That, and I started working, making it difficult for me to visit the local hobby store during the weekends. In the initial years, I really spend a small fortune acquiring the codes. Codes wasn't easily available due to the dwindling number of players. And hence I'm really proud of my HGSS-XY collection, where I have a full playset of each FA, SR, CoL energies and promos, and little more for future trades. But from SM onwards, I gradually shifted to being a casual player. There are other priorities in life, but I always enjoy logging in daily just for a game or two. Nothing serious, I just accumulated all the coins till I hit 25000, then I started buying locked packs. Eventually I have a full booster box for each expansion and every single purchasable theme decks. So... this new TCGL, it's great for new players and a good way of leveling the field. But for old-timers, this is really, really horrible. When I started buying codes, I'm aware I'm not going to be getting back the money spent. But I'm really not expecting Pokemon Co to pull the rugs on those of us who have been playing for years. To just wipe out a huge chunk of my collection (cards & packs), and all the codes I stashed away??! That's so unethical! PTCG isn't exactly free, those codes came through the psychical packs. So even if it's a fraction of the price compared to the psychical cards, it's still something. And this coming from a company that is supposed to be kids/family friendly, on the 25th anniversary? ............. We have one month notice, maybe less. I'm going to do my best to mitigate the transition (losses) over to TCGL. Then I'm probably going to take a long break. And stop buying any merchandises from Pokemon. To everyone who have traded with me, have matches with me; thank you for the good memories. To the mods, thank you for your effort in making this TCGO possible. In the initial years, the scams and various other issues was horrible, but thanks to the mods and the community, this gradually cut down a lot. This is so depressing to quit a two decade old hobby in this manner, but maybe it's a good wake up call to spend your time, effort and money wisely. Maybe we will meet online again one day, maybe not. Thanks.
    3 points
  20. Just dropping by to say hi everyone (and most likely this is my very last time too). Since I've been away from the forum for several years, so let me introduce myself: I'm a Beta player. In fact, one of the earliest ever (I created my TGCO account the very minute the Beta server comes online, which is rather tough for me since I'm in the GMT +8.00 time zone). Check out my avatar, I'm wearing a PaxEast2011 shirt, which is the first ever redeemable code. In the past 10 years, I'm really grateful to the TCGO community and the mods. Thanks to TCGO, I was able to keep up with PTCG all this years. In real life, the PTCG scene in my country had a turn for the worst. Most of the existing players reaches teenage/young adult phase, so the local scene is unruly (duh!). That, and I started working, making it difficult for me to visit the local hobby store during the weekends. In the initial years, I really spend a small fortune acquiring the codes. Codes wasn't easily available due to the dwindling number of players. And hence I'm really proud of my HGSS-XY collection, where I have a full playset of each FA, SR, CoL energies and promos, and little more for future trades. But from SM onwards, I gradually shifted to being a casual player. There are other priorities in life, but I always enjoy logging in daily just for a game or two. Nothing serious, I just accumulated all the coins till I hit 25000, then I started buying locked packs. Eventually I have a full booster box for each expansion and every single purchasable theme decks. So... this new TCGL, it's great for new players and a good way of leveling the field. But for old-timers, this is really, really horrible. When I started buying codes, I'm aware I'm not going to be getting back the money spent. But I'm really not expecting Pokemon Co to pull the rugs on those of us who have been playing for years. To just wipe out a huge chunk of my collection (cards & packs), and all the codes I stashed away??! That's so unethical! PTCG isn't exactly free, those codes came through the psychical packs. So even if it's a fraction of the price compared to the psychical cards, it's still something. And this coming from a company that is supposed to be kids/family friendly, on the 25th anniversary? ............. We have one month notice, maybe less. I'm going to do my best to mitigate the transition (losses) over to TCGL. Then I'm probably going to take a long break. And stop buying any merchandises from Pokemon. To everyone who have traded with me, have matches with me; thank you for the good memories. To the mods, thank you for your effort in making this TCGO possible. In the initial years, the scams and various other issues was horrible, but thanks to the mods and the community, this gradually cut down a lot. This is so depressing to quit a two decade old hobby in this manner, but maybe it's a good wake up call to spend your time, effort and money wisely. Maybe we will meet online again one day, maybe not. Thanks.
    3 points
  21. But I want disparity between me (who have been playing since this game was a browser beta in 2011) and those kids who will just start playing in two months! I spent (or more likely wasted) significant part of my life to farm those 33 thousands cards I have in my collection now, why should I lose some of them without any compensation, even without this stupid new credits thing? And even preparing for getting 6200 crystals seems to be unfair. For the past 10 years I never traded away unopened booster packs, I've always open them, and only trade cards for cards. I don't really want to leave any of my booster packs unopened, because if I open them I might get some new cards which will be useful to some of my decks! What if I start collecting these 125 packs to be converted into crystals and one of them secretly had my 4th Eternatus V or my 3rd Eternatus VMax? Why can't we get 6200 crystals for 1250 surplus cards? Or even for 12500 surplus cards, if they think 10 cards to 1 booster isn't a fair exchange rate. I'm already feel like developers of Pokemon TCG Live spit in my face, because Expanded format will not be playable at the launch, so none of my constructed decks will remain useful. I know nothing about Standart format, but based on what I've heard - it is slower and extremely limited, so I don't wanna try it out of lack of alternative. I will have absolutely nothing to do in that new client from the start until BW cards became playable (except from creating ugly 3D avatar of course). And I don't even get something for my time and my effort put into getting my collection as it is, nothing for the time I will lose... Nothing about this new game is cool, or great, of funny. And of course we WILL get Battle Pass and other microtransactions...
    3 points
  22. Just asking whether unopened uncommon chests count as unopened products or in game currency?
    3 points
  23. Disappointed. I’m going to lose enough cards during the transition to consider calling it quits if they decide to bring trade back in a future update.
    3 points
  24. According to the Pokemon TCG Online Sunset FAQ, some deckboxes, sleeves and coins will be transferable while others aren't. Could we get some additional information on which gameplay items will not be transferable? Some of them are worth a lot of packs, so it would be helpful to know which ones we'll be able to take with us to PTCG Live. Thank you!
    3 points
  25. it will be better trade or open them and try to have 4x of each card (at least of standard set) to be ready for TCGLive
    2 points
  26. Yes, you are able to use Eldegoss V's effect when you use it's attack. Just know this: Whenever you are not allowed to retreat, you can still use cards to help your Active Pokemon switch out: Switch, Escape Rope, Bird Keeper, etc. Any effect of a Pokemon's attack that allows it switch out of the Active Spot or out of the game (like Eldegoss V), can also help if you want it to.
    2 points
  27. Hello, I'd like help in defining what will be considered "unopened items" in the conversion from PTCGO to PTCGL. Specifically, will chests be counted in the unopened item count? Similarly, will "locked" packs be considered in the unopened item count? Thanks in advance for any assistance in optimizing the transition between clients! Cory
    2 points
  28. Yeah, those decks have made me go insane as well, and I thought Blissey was bad enough.
    2 points
  29. made a new topic in almost the ideal spot but i missed. still seems people are redeeming them, here are more in the more correct spot. V4D-NH9H-DC2-TRL PCY-2DD7-W6Z-X4Y V4Q-H27X-LPL-CWM PW4-ZJRN-TCT-DCV VHX-DLGC-NPK-WXT VBM-BZLC-HDT-6CY PKC-NVBR-YL2-WJK PDR-MHJR-DNX-7VR PGJ-NJCX-7LB-2XP VDZ-W294-6BM-K4T P47-X679-WB7-WTD V6B-7Q-G7-NM6-2RW PT7-Z4RP-JTM-GVN P2K-DN9N-BNK-ZHZ PTD-CBC7-BRW-NGY PRD-WG2P-PB9-GKK VD7-NWKX-VG4-479 PR6-7NZT-LRJ-JVP VVZ-BGKH-DQZ-YXY PHT-2P7Z-G2T-XJV VMV-RRKW-NBK-7HV PCR-4LCN-6JJ-YXR PQX-6HQV-C49-LBL VBR-D2ZY-LRZ-GCT P6K-PLDM-L4K-YVT KX9-GDDR-CQR-HTZ BLW-N92M-2JC-WYB BVM-PZ47-D22-6V6 sorry for the changing in posting spots, but meh. still got a lot to go. But games call, next post won't be for another few hours... maybe. i dunno.
    2 points
  30. To those Reading please be sure to read the whole letter before commenting, if commenting please stay on topic, all off topic comments can and will be deleted. Thankyou ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To The Devs and Decision makers of PTCGL First off I would like to thank you for finally showing some love to a much forgotten corner of the pokemon franchise, the online trading card game has stayed essentially the same since its release, barring a few graphics and interface changes here and there. There are a few concerns that the recent FAQ post has brought up that many people are talking about. here are my thoughts on specific points, No Trading: I see a lot of people Complain about this being removed completely, while I agree removing it seems bad especially in a Trading card game, it has also been a cause for scams and used for making irl money. I think Trading should not be completely removed, however should only be available between friends and perhaps implementing a Friend Level system like in Pokemon GO, higher level friends could have faster cooldowns between trades and can trade more and higher rarity cards between each other. No More Legacy Format(HGSS): This one hits me personally in more than one way, I started playing PTCGO when I received my first code card from the Umbreon Theme deck, sadly I lost all my old cards in a house fire (up to XY Legendary treasures) and PTCGO was the only place I could essentially see and play with those cards, on top of that HGSS had amazing artwork for all there cards and they are still highly sought after to this day Especially Trainer and Energy cards that have Re-prints in current sets. I would like to see them transferred over even if it is only in a binder showing that I still have them there. and not playable (Like trophy cards to show that you are an og player) This also adds the opportunity of adding Legacy formats back into the game, for example HGSS era format - HGSS sets only, BW format - BW sets only, XY, SM, SWSH ect, the rules would be based on the error they were printed for example XY format allows for Supporters first turn whereas SWSH format does not, this will allow for some supporter cards that have first turn effets EG: Lillie actually be playable again What happens to Surplus and unopened packs: So far all we know only up to 4 of each unique card (59x Energy, 1x Prism/Ace/Vunion) will be transferred over for use, many players myself included would like to know what will happen to the extras will they just be left behind in the old game and subaquencualy deleted with the server or will they also be transferred and converted into In game currency(igc) to spend on new packs/cosmetics(cos we all know we are going to start collecting all the clothes to), This also goes for unopened packs, we know that they will be converted to igc depending on how many we have, my question is the conversion amount based on the total of all unopened packs or amount of unopened packs of each set individually? Opportunities and wishes: In PTCGL I would like to see a Decent Single player Campaign, something like the Original pokemon Trading Card Game on the Gameboy, this will be a good opportunity to use it as a tutorial for new players and later on as players progress a way to test there decks, normal trainers can have similar decks to the current NPC battles do, the gym leaders should have decks that use EX, GX and V cards to create more of a challenge (also good for testing out decks), and the 4 Grandmasters could use staple Meta decks. Also on the note of NPC battles please give them a more aggressive AI, especially when testing out decks, in the current OHKO meta we have, having a AI that go easy on the player because there deck is ether struggling to find benched pokemon or energys, does not help the player grow and try out different combo of cards to help overcome any shortcomings that there deck may have On the topic of AI and Decks, Please Keep there decks up to date with the current sets, in PTCGO now The NPC's decks have not been updated since XY making them not much of a challenge Legacy sets: With the game swinging so heavily towards the in-game shop for obtaining cards, it would be a good opportunity to slowly release old sets with their own playable format starting with the one that started it all: Base set, Jungle then Fossil, and so on. These set releases can come with a set of quests based off the set that reward players with cards, packs or igc. As mentioned before this would be a good reason to allow us to keep our Old HGSS cards, even if it is only in a list that states i have them like BW will be till there released. Final note: Once again Thankyou for bringing us an update to the PTCGO/L community, I just hope that you will take the time to listen to your community in regards to specific topics especially in regards to our collections as some of us have spent time and money collecting those cards weather it is threw trading or going out buying IRL cards it will be sading to lose such a large chunk of our ptcgo history. Regards Jav ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2 points
  31. As I said, my collection of 33 thousands cards is a result of me playing since 2011, going through prize wheels, versus ladders, spending in-game coins in in-game shop etc. It is not actually the result of "exchange human organs", so most of the cards I have 5 copies and more are trade-locked copies. I physically can't exchange them to cards I missing. I have absolutely no problem with "ruining" the game's economy. In PTCGO there were people who spend money on IRL cards products and simply just buy a ton of codes, and they could have the best cards on the day one of new expansion being out; and in PCGL there definitely will be even more people who will spend even crazier money on Battle Pass and Crystals and other unfair advantages, and they also will have the best cards on the day one of new expansion being out. There is not a single way to put everyone on the same starting position when new game will launch, someone will have huge advantage. In fairness, there are two groups of people who should get this advantage - rich money spenders and old players with dozens and even hundreds hours played. And rich people aren't really screwed by this move from Online to Live (they could trade their cards for cards they are missing), only the loyal players are. P. S. Conversation above actually made me think about kind of a decent solving for this problem - if developers knowing about the move from PTCGO to PCGL actually made all our cards tradeable (or at least all of the cards we have more than 4x trade-locked copies) - we, old loyal players, actually would be able to trade our soon-to-be-annihilated cards for cards we are missing. Of course no one actually would present us with this generous gift.
    2 points
  32. I said "kids" because I think adults who are currently interested in Pokemon Trading Card Game and are the main audience of this game - are already playing "Online" for up to ten years now, and if "Live" even will be able to bring new players (on top of scattering the old ones) - that would be childs I kinda wish TPCI announced something like that, because in that case the whole player base went absolutely crazy about it, expressed our disdain loudly, aggressively and globally - and in result convince TPCi to either left PTCGO as it is, or at least postpone "Live" in order to allow us to migrate our full collection from old client to new. However, from what I've seen, most of the player base nowadays are more or less OK with perspective of losing our old cards and surplus cards without any compensation at all. If there are pitchforks and torches, I don't see where are they.
    2 points
  33. Will I lose my sleeves from victini vivid set with this pokemon live?
    2 points
  34. Considering they specified that basic Energy from pre-constructed decks does not transfer, I think that trade-locked cards will transfer. That clause probably exists because they figured it was too easy to fill out an energy collection via Theme Deck purchases, which only makes sense if Theme Decks purchased digitally will transfer.
    2 points
  35. i think they would lose everyone if they didnt allow locked cards to transfer
    2 points
  36. I actually bothered to send a support ticket about this issue and I'm extremely irritated by the response I got, it was basically a canned response saying to check out the Pokemon TCG Live's site, to use their support site if I had any questions about the Pokemon TCG Live (that one made me violently ill), and to follow Pokemon's official social media channels for updates. You know I was actually considering giving the TCG Live a fair shake but this insulting reply to a genuine question just took that possibility out to pasture.
    2 points
  37. It is really stupid that they release a totally same thing with different thing and then take the opportunity to destroy whatever TCG online has..
    2 points
  38. i disagree with almost everything you guys replied. First of all, newcomers have way more options to build decks. I dont see any reason why we should have pay to win model because someone has to try harder first couple of months to build a solid deck. You have ladder prizes, you have theme deck tournaments which reward nicely, from there you would eventually get enough good cards for expanded tournaments and eventually enough good cards for standard. I dont see anything wrong with falling behind and taking your time building the deck you so desire. One month before set release i start gathering coins and by the time set comes out im able to buy 50+ packs at once where i usually got solid amount of hits. And with that said, i dont see a reason why everyone should have the latest and greatest deck . It made me sick when 9 out of 10 games i would play against the same ADP zacian deck . Be creative with what you have, dont go taking your wallet and buying the meta deck everyone has. It is a TRADING card game, trading should be the main aspect, and instead of selling cards they should just revamp the trading system which was currently in place because it sucked. Proper filters, longer trade durations, more options to trade for coins etc. Just because other TCGs have went that way didnt mean that PTCGO has to be the same. They tried to replicate the IRL experience and it was mostly good.
    2 points
  39. Not during the migration. Only in the new game. Really wish we could get at least partial credit for our extra cards. Even if it was 10 percent of the future rate.
    2 points
  40. Wiping out all the HGSS product borders on criminal IMHO. Pokemon is clearly not the family friendly company that they try to portray. This is one of the more ruthless things I have ever heard of for this type of industry. Why try to build a true legacy when you can get a bigger bonus check I suppose. What a bunch of scum bags.
    2 points
  41. You've hit the point. This is exactly why they are capable of doing this. They know that you won't quit because of the money you spent and bring in more players at the same time. Extremely unethical but double win for them. I am also very skeptical about the BW and XY series cards. They would transfer over but who knows when or whether that update would happen. From a marketing aspect, it is very likely that they would become dust in the future. Just semi-false info to lure you in. A lot of information given from them are extremely ambiguous at this point and I believe that that is intentional to lure in players, give false hope, and avoid lawsuits in the future. My suggestion is this, if you are not a rich player, it might be good to invest very carefully in the future. Since Sun and Moon, The Pokemon Company has gradually abandoned basically most of their ethics gradually and have known to treat players only for money. Since they are aware that most of their stuff would sell well, this would lead to poor customer service and minimal devotion and standards. This is a very dangerous situation for long-time fans.
    2 points
  42. Agreed, I'm surprised and that people are celebrating this change in operation. Also, if people are expecting TPCi to be reasonable when it comes to pricing microtransactions (we all know its coming, it's just a matter of WHEN) then they're in for a shock. Remember when the TCGO had Gems as a paid currency and the prices essentially matched IRL prices and people rightly mocked TPCi for that blunder?
    2 points
  43. the decision to remove trade is very much in line with the pay to win micro-transaction focused mobile game business model. they could of had both trade and a crafting system, but choosing to remove the option of trading is the more effective way to force players to dump money into the game. it's how hearthstone operates and gives players that dont pay into the app on a regular basis an extreme disadvantage.
    2 points
  44. Yeah I agree, I think this will be a popular "upgrade" for a larger market, but it is quite brutal. Just to show how little they care about older players they've confirmed that HGSS era packs don't even count towards the 125 limit lmao... So they are literally giving nothing, not even a single token/"crystal", as compensation for *any* HGSS-era cards or packs we might have had (as well as any gameplay/avatar as already confirmed)... even if it was purchased in the original PTCGO for $ with gems (since all of those are getting deleted).
    2 points
  45. Additional copies beyond these limits will not be transferred. It best provide players with compensation on hard earned extra cards... The hard earned tournaments should be converted to some sort of rewards
    2 points
  46. https://support.pokemon.com/hc/en-us/articles/4403724591124-Which-items-will-not-be-able-to-migrate-from-the-Pokémon-TCG-Online-to-Pokémon-TCG-Live- "Please find below a list of items that will not be migrated from the Pokémon TCG Online to Pokémon TCG Live. Deck Cosmetics Deck cosmetics that are not associated with a product or promotion from Black & White or later" So it depends on if The Pokémon Company considers the Victini Vivid Sleeves as being tied to a promotion or not.
    2 points
  47. Since every copy of a card you own in excess of 4 won't be transferred to the new game and since trading apparently won't work on the new client anymore it only makes sense to try and even out your collection. By that I mean trade cards you have to spare for cards you don't already have (especially Trainers and Energies). As a crude example: Imagine 2 Trainers, one has every odd-numbered card 8 times, the other has every even-numbered card 8 times. When the new game arrives, both of them will have half their library gone since they can only transfer 4 of every 8 copies of cards they have. If both of them trade with each other beforehand they will both have 4 copies of every card in the new client and no card would be deleted.
    2 points
  48. I see this change has a downgrade
    2 points
  49. I finally realized what T stands for in PTCGL.
    2 points
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