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[GAME] Private trade don't work anymore?


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09 March 2019 - 03:51 PM

#41

CptLexorFTW

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I doubt it has anything to do with "wealth" as I am probably the wealthiest player (having 3+ of all EX/GX/Break cards+variants in the game, 9 complete sets, all but a few theme/promo decks in my collection, now hunting commons and uncommons to complete my sets) in my circle of friends. Out of all the 30 or so people I know personally on here and trade with, only 2 are affected.



It's a big problem none-the-less and horrible for those affected I'm sure, because it affects them 100% of the time! I'm not downplaying it...



However, I believe that it is something on the user side of this one, not the server side. Something changed on the server side that caused it, but being that not all are equally effected, it leads me to make the educated guess that the issue is user system specific.


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More accurately user network protocol specific... Packets can go one way, not the other.

weird flex but ok, seriously though you sound very pompous . wealth doesn't come from how many cards you own in a game and i know people with 10 of each card bud that have/don't have this issue bud, your previous post with the steps for 'helping' us doesn't work and our games were all fine until a month ago so its obviously not a user problem its a problem on the games side not ours


Edited by CptLexorFTW, 09 March 2019 - 03:53 PM.

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09 March 2019 - 03:58 PM

#42

CptLexorFTW

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the game is free and the mods/coders/dev team are utterly garbage. been the same way since i started playing and doesn't show any sign of letting up. this issue wont even be acknowledged for months and nothing will get done about it until half their players quit with how bad the state of this game is rn


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09 March 2019 - 04:35 PM

#43

ShinyMegaRay

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I doubt it has anything to do with "wealth" as I am probably the wealthiest player (having 3+ of all EX/GX/Break cards+variants in the game, 9 complete sets, all but a few theme/promo decks in my collection, now hunting commons and uncommons to complete my sets) in my circle of friends. Out of all the 30 or so people I know personally on here and trade with, only 2 are affected.

 

It's a big problem none-the-less and horrible for those affected I'm sure, because it affects them 100% of the time! I'm not downplaying it...

 

However, I believe that it is something on the user side of this one, not the server side. Something changed on the server side that caused it, but being that not all are equally effected, it leads me to make the educated guess that the issue is user system specific.

 

More accurately user network protocol specific... Packets can go one way, not the other. 

Theoretically, couldn't Pokemon just reverse any changes that were made to the trading system in the previous update?  I don't know a ton about network/protocols/etc., but I imagine restoring the previous trading system wouldn't be rocket science.  If only they would stop ignoring this thread....


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09 March 2019 - 04:42 PM

#44

ShinyMegaRay

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Additionally, its worth noting that I play on both my PC (windows 10) and my android phone and I am unaffected on both platforms.  Is anybody that plays on multiple platforms affected on one and not the other?  If we could rule out the bug being based on certain accounts, that could be beneficial. 


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09 March 2019 - 09:59 PM

#45

feederdp

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I play on my laptop and iPad and my account can't trade on both , not sure if it's something to do with items that you have tagged for trade but do not longer possess that are still tagged for trade just a theory anyone else ?
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10 March 2019 - 06:31 AM

#46

brdlevel

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I play on my laptop and iPad and my account can't trade on both , not sure if it's something to do with items that you have tagged for trade but do not longer possess that are still tagged for trade just a theory anyone else ?

I am not sure on this but i am pretty sure i do not have any cards marked for trade that i do not own anymore and i am affected by this bug


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11 March 2019 - 05:44 PM

#47

Jigglypuffan

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man pokemon are dumb.. they literally ignore everyone in here.


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11 March 2019 - 10:06 PM

#48

OfficerShane

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weird flex but ok, seriously though you sound very pompous . wealth doesn't come from how many cards you own in a game and i know people with 10 of each card bud that have/don't have this issue bud, your previous post with the steps for 'helping' us doesn't work and our games were all fine until a month ago so its obviously not a user problem its a problem on the games side not ours

 

I didn't mean it one bit at all like how you took it. Sorry you were offended by my attempt to help... 


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11 March 2019 - 10:14 PM

#49

OfficerShane

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Additionally, its worth noting that I play on both my PC (windows 10) and my android phone and I am unaffected on both platforms.  Is anybody that plays on multiple platforms affected on one and not the other?  If we could rule out the bug being based on certain accounts, that could be beneficial. 

 
No, it seems to have nothing to do at all with platform either, and we tested all my ideas with my friends that were affected... Nothing changed. I tried logging across Windows, Android, and IOS plats, and all were the same with the two I know that were affected by it. It didn't matter if they were on or offline either... 

It is totally specific accounts and those specific accounts were affected server-side... It is 100% on the devs. 

I wonder, if that small handful of cards that were changed is the glitch.

Looking at the update and the change list, is there anything there that is common among the affected accounts? Aside from the bug they are experiencing of course... I am wondering if they have any cards on the list of changes, if they trade those to a friend privately (those affected I know can offer me trades but I cannot offer them trades) can we pass the bug to others or will it force the data to update and resolve it...

I am just shooting in the dark here, but any idea is better than nothing right? 

If we can pull together and isolate the common factor we can alert them to the actual problem... 


Edited by OfficerShane, 11 March 2019 - 10:15 PM.

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11 March 2019 - 10:41 PM

#50

OfficerShane

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Okay, so I'm unaffected, that in mind... 

Field Blower 163 of 145 full art, I do not own

 

Shedinja "LOT #13" I do not even see a Lost Thunder #13 Shedinja as a card. Unsure what that means. Lost Thunder #13 is Skiploom...
I do have both variations of card #95 Shedinja from Lost Thunder. Not sure what they meant by LOT #13.

 

I do have all 3 variations of Sabrina's Suggestion and Gladion cards mentioned. So that isn't likely the issue. 

 

I do have both of the Plasma Blast Sigilyph 41/101

 

I have all 4 variants of Erika's Hospitality in Team Up set

I do not believe that I ever had any of the 2013 World Championship decks...

Ergo, I think the issue would reside in the code for either the Full Art Field Blower #163 or the 2013 World Championship Decks. 

 

If it is not directly account related...


Edited by OfficerShane, 11 March 2019 - 10:47 PM.

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11 March 2019 - 10:49 PM

#51

RobRatt

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Ergo, I think the issue would reside in the code for either the Full Art Field Blower #163 or the 2013 World Championship Decks. 

 

If it is not directly account related...

You're chasing after the wrong wild geese buddy.  It's got to be something else entirely.

 

I know, I've heard it too, that it "might be bigger collections" that are affected.  But that's not it, at all.  I've built two complete collections (my son & I), with only a few Gem Promos missing, and we have no problems with private trades.

 

My personal guess is that something is corrupted in the Trade History database, or something has gone awry in their "tagging" systems (For Want, For Trade, etc.).


Edited by RobRatt, 11 March 2019 - 11:10 PM.

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11 March 2019 - 11:11 PM

#52

OfficerShane

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Okay eliminated World Champions pack...

 

Does anyone experiencing the problem own a trade locked GuR #163 Field Blower? 


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11 March 2019 - 11:15 PM

#53

brdlevel

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You're chasing after the wrong wild geese buddy.  It's got to be something else entirely.

 

I know, I've heard it too, that it "might be bigger collections" that are affected.  But that's not it, at all.  I've built two complete collections (my son & I), with only a few Gem Promos missing, and we have no problems with private trades.

 

My personal guess is that something is corrupted in the Trade History database, or something has gone awry in their "tagging" systems (For Want, For Trade, etc.).

Thats what ive been thinking as well maybe it was something to do with the card that randomly went missing

 

"EDIT:  With the v2.61 update (2/26/2019), three alternate Foil cards (from existing sets) were added -- Buzzwole FLI 77, Celesteela CES 100, and Guzzlord FLI 80.  Also, one unexplained card (possibly a Fairy Energy) went missing.  Total 10,706.  See post #103."

 

Like if you had it tagged for something before it was removed?


brd

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11 March 2019 - 11:16 PM

#54

RobRatt

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Okay eliminated World Champions pack...

 

Does anyone experiencing the problem own a trade locked GuR #163 Field Blower? 

I own a trade-locked copy of this Field Blower, with no trading problems.

 

...Another errant gosling.  See my post above. ;)


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11 March 2019 - 11:18 PM

#55

OfficerShane

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You're chasing after the wrong wild geese buddy.  It's got to be something else entirely.

 

I know, I've heard it too, that it "might be bigger collections" that are affected.  But that's not it, at all.  I've built two complete collections (my son & I), with only a few Gem Promos missing, and we have no problems with private trades.

 

My personal guess is that something is corrupted in the Trade History database, or something has gone awry in their "tagging" systems (For Want, For Trade, etc.).

Was just looking at the bug fixes... If it's not client side, it's not OS related, it isn't network related, and it isn't a global issue... There is some kind of reason for it being selective to only certain individuals. If those affected can narrow down possibilities, or at least tell the devs what we know it's not -- then maybe they can more quickly figure out what happened and do something...

I'm sincerely trying to help here... 


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11 March 2019 - 11:33 PM

#56

OfficerShane

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I own a trade-locked copy of this Field Blower, with no trading problems.

 

...Another errant gosling.  See my post above. ;)

Oh no, I seen your post... I just don't see anyone trying to eliminate possibilities or potential issues. I once had a professor that told me "an errant action is always better than inaction," and "making the wrong choice is better than never choosing at all." Because, who knows, you may get lucky? 

I want to help my friends that are experiencing this problem, and thusly anyone else experiencing the problem in the community at the same time. It seems that this still isn't listed in the "known issues" section, so the devs haven't taken notice of it being a serious problem yet. Therefore, we shouldn't let this thread die. If they see the community is eliminating potential problems that narrow it down to a 100% totally server side coding issue, then maybe they'll take it more seriously. Due diligence and all...

Otherwise, the standard cue card fix solution will be the result... Delete the game, restart, and reinstall, have a nice day! I know know they've already done this much and more. The mods/devs need to see that... 


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11 March 2019 - 11:48 PM

#57

RobRatt

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Was just looking at the bug fixes... If it's not client side, it's not OS related, it isn't network related, and it isn't a global issue... There is some kind of reason for it being selective to only certain individuals. If those affected can narrow down possibilities, or at least tell the devs what we know it's not -- then maybe they can more quickly figure out what happened and do something...

I'm sincerely trying to help here... 

Your idea, using the process of elimination, is smart.  I was just letting you know that it's not going to be something we own, unless everyone who owns it has this trading problem.  Many players own all of the cards in the latest fixes, and most aren't having issues.

 

What do these players have in common?  Dunno, but I'm sure they appreciate your help.


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12 March 2019 - 12:00 AM

#58

RobRatt

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Thats what ive been thinking as well maybe it was something to do with the card that randomly went missing

 

"EDIT:  With the v2.61 update (2/26/2019), three alternate Foil cards (from existing sets) were added -- Buzzwole FLI 77, Celesteela CES 100, and Guzzlord FLI 80.  Also, one unexplained card (possibly a Fairy Energy) went missing.  Total 10,706.  See post #103."

 

Like if you had it tagged for something before it was removed?

Since you're having this "trade bug," you could check this missing card for yourself.

 

1.  It's a foil version, basic Fairy League Energy.

 

2.  It can be found in the Trade Window (I Am Getting).  It just quit showing in Collection with the last update (if you already owned it).  It's the one without graphics, and says "Asset Download Error."

 

I doubt if this is causing the private trade glitches, but anything is possible.  Could you check to see if you have it tagged For Want or For Trade?


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12 March 2019 - 12:28 AM

#59

brdlevel

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Since you're having this "trade bug," you could check this missing card for yourself.

 

1.  It's a foil version, basic Fairy League Energy.

 

2.  It can be found in the Trade Window (I Am Getting).  It just quit showing in Collection with the last update (if you already owned it).  It's the one without graphics, and says "Asset Download Error."

 

I doubt if this is causing the private trade glitches, but anything is possible.  Could you check to see if you have it tagged For Want or For Trade?

I guess its not this i did not have it tagged for trade or want however i did own a copy of it so i tried trading it off my account but i still cant trade


brd

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12 March 2019 - 08:42 PM

#60

OfficerShane

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Your idea, using the process of elimination, is smart.  I was just letting you know that it's not going to be something we own, unless everyone who owns it has this trading problem.  Many players own all of the cards in the latest fixes, and most aren't having issues.

 

What do these players have in common?  Dunno, but I'm sure they appreciate your help.

 

I see your point... It's so odd, it seems rather random then... 

Maybe they should just redo the server-side patch again and force auto-repatch all clients to resync everyone, since it seems that some are disconnected from sending or receiving trades. Like I had stated, the two I know that have this issue, both have a different symptom of the same problem, or so I assume. One I cannot directly private trade with, but can offer me trades, the other cannot trade directly with others, but can receive trades from others. 

Then again maybe it is more than one bug. Maybe they need to run a server-side patch on the trade lobby portion of the code itself, then auto-update clients to sync. (or as some have suggested, roll-it back to the state pre-Feb 26th patch - provided that won't desync everyone client-side)

 

Unfortunately, it's impossible to know anything more at this point without being able to look at the server source code, so on our side there is little left to be done. 

Can a Mod please mark this as something for the Dev team to look into (if you haven't already)? 

If you have already, can you chime in and let us know it's being looked into... just so these folks know their plea for help hasn't fallen to the wayside?

 


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