RobRatt, on 21 Feb 2019 - 4:30 PM, said:
No, I don't think we were "saying the same thing" at all.
1. Use Guru Cave as a price guide.
2. Here's the direct link.
3. Think of them as a convenience store.
4. You'll save hours, days, and weeks of difficult trading.
You couldn't give much worse advice to potential traders.
If my viewpoint seems "hostile" to that, so be it.
Obviously, I could give much worse advice... but you know what? Instead of running through your points, I actually decided to re-read my own initial comment for like the fifth or sixth time. Which means I realized there were several bits I left out. Ouch.
Not claiming you'd agree with it anyway, Rob. Pretty sure you wouldn't, actually, but it means even by my own standard, I gave bad advice.
I'd edit, but I learned a long time ago that is a bad idea when something like this is in dispute. I must apologize twice then, as I had to edit
in me saying "Sorry, Robratt." because I was indeed wrong.
@lazydude777 I messed up, and I'm sorry. I meant to make it crystal clear
that you only use something like Guru as a "price guide" when you don't have something better and
while knowing they're asking too much. You don't pay their prices unless you cannot wait... and you'll almost always be able to wait. Some folks don't feel like waiting, some folks just aren't good at trading. Big
difference, though, from what I actually said. I wanted to give you an idea of the worst
you'd be paying for the deck. Give or take the odd weekend event on the PTCGO, like how they temporarily
had all the booster packs you could win from tournaments all being SM - Team Up instead of something random.
The message board rules don't really like us linking to unofficial sites, or at least I've gotten in trouble for it, even when it is something like PokéGym. Guru closed down a bit ago and only recently re-opened. If there's another good price guide on this message board
... then I messed up even worse than I finally realized. I also took your username at face value - if I'm not an otaku, I at least resemble one
- so I wasn't too worried about explaining the detailed trading process right away. I figured you'd ask if you were interested in more.
I stand by the convenience store comparison. I just forgot to make it clear how badly
overpriced stuff tends to be... because that's how I view buying stuff at convenience stores. I've certainly done it, because sometimes you just really want a beverage, snack, whatever while you're driving somewhere, but didn't think to bring one with. XD I also wanted to share my recent experience building the deck myself. I tried trading for Jumpluff with offers assuming Guru was asking two to five times the going rate and... crickets. Eventually, I offered only a little below it and got them. With Super Boost Enregy, same thing except
I had to pay four times what Guru was asking! Maybe I just needed more tries. Still worth mentioning, even if only as an example of "This is what happens when you're not patient."Edit:
I also need to be careful. The entire reason for the "convenience store" comparison was to stress that sometimes
it may be worth it to use a trading company thread. I'd rather we had at least one than none. I'm too used to explaining why
sometimes asking (and paying) a premium price is justified. I'm just doing a disservice to everyone. >_<
The good news is, RobRatt explained in detail how to trade, and even offered some help. Hopefully, before you took the bad advice.
Edited by Otakutron, 23 February 2019 - 03:28 AM.
If you do not have Private Messages enabled, it really limits you in discussing the Pokémon TCG.