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Zoroark-GX should be banned?


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11 February 2019 - 06:10 PM

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LightFlarion

    Rookie Trainer

  • LightFlarion

Sup all!

 

I was interested in knowing if anybody else feels the same way I do about Zoroark-GX deserving to be banned. I feel that personally this card should have been made into a prism card forcing players to run only one copy of the card in there decks if they choose.

 

I feel that there are too may variations of Zoroark-GX decks both in standard and expanded, making the meta to be quite dull. This forces players to either play decks that have a favorably match-up against the deck (such as Buzzwole-GX) or having to take-up card space in your deck to run Zoroark-GX hate cards (which I find annoying).

 

Overall I feel that if Zoroark-GX would be banned it would open up the meta allowing other decks to see viable competitive play and freeing up space in players decks to run other cards that can make gameplay more interesting.

 

Thanks for reading! :)


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11 February 2019 - 07:30 PM

#2

RobRatt

    Elite Trainer

  • RobRatt

I like playing Zoroark-GX.  People that don't just need to stifle it.  ;)


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11 February 2019 - 07:36 PM

#3

Otakutron

    Veteran Trainer

  • Otakutron

Zoroark-GX is a strong card, but it hasn't reached the level where TPCi is likely to ban it. Cards get banned because of things like preventing you from playing Item cards before you've even had your first turn, or preventing you from evolving before you've had the chance to manually evolve at all. I don't recall TPCi ever banning something because it was played too often.



Unfortunately, that doesn't solve your problem of running into it more than you'd like. If you don't wish to take advantage of it e.g. run something that enjoys pounding on Zoroark-GX, then try altering the time of day you play, or switching decks in general. Doing so should affect who the PTCGO has you face in matches.  If Zoroark-GX is ever seen as a problem, it still might not be the card to ban. Sounds strange, but Zoroark-GX is good because of various combos, which then lead to various decks.

 

TPCi banned Shiftry (BW - Next Destinies 72/99) instead of Forest of Giant Plants when First Turn Win decks using Shiftry materialized in Expanded. Eventually, when XY - Ancient Origins (the set that contains Forest of Giant Plants) was slated to rotate from the Standard Format, TPC or TPCi (I don't remember which) banned Forest of Giant Plants and brought Shiftry back. It finally mattered to them that Vileplume (XY - Ancient Origins 3/98) could lock down Items before the other player even got a turn, that spamming Decidueye-GX could take out smaller evolving Basics before the other player ever got a turn, potentially winning the game outright or at least making it incredibly difficult for the other player to set up.


Edited by Otakutron, 11 February 2019 - 07:38 PM.

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13 February 2019 - 01:30 PM

#4

EpicShonenGuy

    Senior Trainer

  • EpicShonenGuy

No, Zoroark GX is a really good card but not ban worthy.


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13 February 2019 - 03:28 PM

#5

Sakura150612

    Elite Trainer

  • Sakura150612

No, Zoroark GX is a really good card but not ban worthy.

Pretty much this, there isn't a whole lot more to say. The meta isn't really stale because of Zoroark-GX, there's plenty of other decks being used. Most importantly, Zoroark-GX can't break the game like some of the actual banned cards can, so that alone means it won't be banned.

 

[...] or having to take-up card space in your deck to run Zoroark-GX hate cards (which I find annoying).

 

Just take a single copy of Sudowoodo man xd It's such a good tech, and taking a single space from your deck won't hurt. Even if it's not permanent (thanks to Garbodor and Alolan Muk, although you CAN get rid of them as well), you're locking Zoroark-GX into the 100-130 damage range (130 assuming it has a Choice Band; can be increased further but that requires Kukui and/or a non-Sky Field Stadium which they're unlikely to have in an Expanded deck at least), which is a huge handicap for them. There's a lot of non-GX Basic and Stage 2 Pokemon that have over 100 HP, and EX/GX Pokemon will pretty much never go down in 1 hit to that kind of damage. It has the side benefit of utterly annihilating any M Rayquaza-EX decks that might still remain, and it's a big hindrance to a lot of other decks that don't do damage scaling with bench size but that do otherwise have a tight bench because of the supporting Pokemon they need to drop (starting by Leles and Shays).

 

On a separate note, I'm actually happy that there's so much Zoroark-GX going around. Because of the way that the food chain works, this means that now I rarely ever face that stupid, demonic tree that kept making games a nightmare for my only deck (Night March xd).


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13 February 2019 - 04:37 PM

#6

SuperStone

    Elite Trainer

  • SuperStone

There's a lot of non-GX Basic and Stage 2 Pokemon that have over 100 HP, and EX/GX Pokemon will pretty much never go down in 1 hit to that kind of damage.

Specifically, the only stage 2s with under 110 (in the TCGO) HP are Reuniclus and Jumpluff. :P  Also, while dozens of basics have over 100 HP, the only ones of them that evolve are type null, chansey, wailmer, and onix- unless you count BREAKs.


The truth waits for no one.  That which you refuse to see, TPCi, slips past you.  The chat function was never your problem, yet through your blindness, you have made it one.

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13 February 2019 - 06:00 PM

#7

Sakura150612

    Elite Trainer

  • Sakura150612

Reuniclus is OP and should be banned.

(forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/49316-ban-reuniclus/)

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Edited by Sakura150612, 13 February 2019 - 06:02 PM.

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