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Please add/change a few canned chat messages in-game

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OU7C4ST

Change:

I'd like to see Well Played replaced with Good Game. (It seems less toxic, and more specific to the end of a game, than "Well Played" does)

Add:

"Hmm, Thinking.." "I'm Thinking", or "Still Thinking". (This may help newer players, or even veterans let their opponent know that they are still taking time to think of an effective strategy during their turn)

"Let's be friends?" (If you want to add a player you feel would be a great opponent again in the future, or just want to alert them that you may message them further after the game)


These are the top 3 things I would like to see added/changed.
If you feel there should be any other additions or changes, feel free to list 'em below.

Thanks!

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Sakura150612

I remember suggesting something like this around 2 years ago. I don't doubt that they were in fact forwarded towards the dev team, but it's obvious that the dev team has no interest in implementing them xd

 

forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/48796-list-of-potential-additions-to-the-canned-chat/

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Otakutron

I actually do like "Well played" as an option, but wouldn't mind a "Good Game".  I used to just thank people for playing when I won (and chat wasn't canned), but that's because I could be oh-so-salty when someone told me "Good Game" and it clearly was not a good game.

 

I do like the proposed added options, as well as a "facepalm" emoticon, because I'd like to be able to admit when I did something stupid. XD  I suspect Sakura150612 is right and the Dev Team just isn't interested.  Some of it might be the fact that anything they add needs to have an equivalent in other languages.

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RobRatt

I think I've made this, and similar suggestions 3 or 4 times.  Why do you suppose they don't make the smallest changes to improve this game?  It's baffling.
 
This thread, that I started in the summer of 2017 (below). didn't even get the customary comment "We're going to forward this to someone else in development, who will ignore it."  They simply LOCKED it.
 
http://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/53293-thanks-for-the-game/
 
P.S.  That was a very good list you did in 2016 @Sakura. along with some of the suggestions that followed.  I never saw that before.
 

Dear TPCi Staff,
 
Like many others, I wish we had the ability to chat with players during Versus matches.  Okay, I get it.  Other people (the snarky ones) have probably ruined that option for the rest of us.
 
But please, is there any way to add more options into the canned messages?
 
My first thought is, "Thanks for the game!!"  But variations could be, "Good game!!" or such.  I just played a guy who I thought showed great "Spirit of the Game" and would have liked to say something besides "You have a good deck" or "That was close."  He took a blistering beating, because I got a good setup, and he was weak to my deck, but he sat through all 6 prizes.
 
How about, "Good Luck" in the beginning of the game, which is something I hear all the time in the real world?
 
And maybe, "I'm working on my Daily Challenges" which is something unique to PTCGO?
 
I'm sure there could be many others, if you guys applied yourself.  Maybe look at the old Battle Dictionary and pull a few phrases into the game?
 
Thanks for listening. :)

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OU7C4ST

Ah, I was unaware of the former Posts you two made. My apologies.

I recently saw a discussion on an outside social media platform about how people misuse "Well Played" quite a bit, and thought that "Good game" might be more direct to the Dev's initial wishes, which was to only use that when a match has all but come to a conclusion.

It is quite disappointing that Dev to Player-Base discussions are all but lost since Samhayne has left TPCi. It can really result in little to no faith/trust left in a game's moderation team over time.  :(

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Otakutron

Ah, I was unaware of the former Posts you two made. My apologies.

 

I recently saw a discussion on an outside social media platform about how people misuse "Well Played" quite a bit, and thought that "Good game" might be more direct to the Dev's initial wishes, which was to only use that when a match has all but come to a conclusion.

 

It is quite disappointing that Dev to Player-Base discussions are all but lost since Samhayne has left TPCi. It can really result in little to no faith/trust left in a game's moderation team over time.  :(

 

To be fair, their hands may be tied.  You brought up replacing "Well played!" with "Good Game" to avoid people misuing it but I think that is why they chose "Well played!" over "Good Game!" XD  Before the canned chat, it was not uncommon to say "GG" to imply the game was already settled, or to taunt an opponent if they made a mistake that was likely to cost them the game.

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Felidae_

Every time I read about “misusing Well Played” or “getting harassed by the chat messages” I can't help but chuckle.

 

So, +1 for the facepalm emoticon that Otakutron suggested, I'm sure no one would use this for any purpose of mockery :D.

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XK920XK

can someone explain to me how "well played" is considered "toxic"

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SuperStone

Ah, I was unaware of the former Posts you two made. My apologies.

 

I recently saw a discussion on an outside social media platform about how people misuse "Well Played" quite a bit, and thought that "Good game" might be more direct to the Dev's initial wishes, which was to only use that when a match has all but come to a conclusion.

 

It is quite disappointing that Dev to Player-Base discussions are all but lost since Samhayne has left TPCi. It can really result in little to no faith/trust left in a game's moderation team over time.  :(

Well, on the topic of the Chat, they've never been even slightly communicative.  Honestly, I doubt they have a choice- TPCi probably told them how much they could say, which sho' ain't much.  You've probably seen this quote before, but the only explanation they ever gave in-forum was "the trolls won."

 

can someone explain to me how "well played" is considered "toxic"

It's much harder to see, I'm sure, now that chat is canned, but when you actually have to type it, it can be used shinisterily.  You can still do it with skill, though.  :P 

 

Me: *dead draws six turns in a row*

Opponent: "Well Played."  *plays cards from hand for five minutes, guzmas, catchers, lasers, plays reverse valley to remove poison, then takes final K.O.*

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Otakutron

Every time I read about “misusing Well Played” or “getting harassed by the chat messages” I can't help but chuckle.

 

So, +1 for the facepalm emoticon that Otakutron suggested, I'm sure no one would use this for any purpose of mockery :D.

 

Oh, I'm well aware that

 

1) I'm thin-skinned (especially when salty) :unsure:

 

2) That a facepalm emoticon would be used to mock others. :rolleyes:

 

The thing is everything in the chat gets misused.  Yeah, the canned chat, even.  There are folks that realize how distracting/annoying it can be, so they make the Chat Box look like some sort of rhythm game from the '00s. :blink:  

 

The standard I recommend is "Does it help more than it hurts?"  Right now, if I made a mistake or have some "hidden" bad luck, I can what?  Angry Face.  Sad Face.  Confused Face.  I'm not 100% convinced, but if the Dev Team were to add a few new options to the Canned Chat, then a Facepalm emoticon might be a net positive so we have a better way of expressing ourselves under those circumstances.  Another nice one might be a Clock symbol; the game already lets you know if you're going to slow, so it is not for that; I just like it to flash before I have to concede because I didn't realize I was out of time IRL.

 

I'll wrap this post up by pointing out I do certainly block people I think are spamming the chat already.

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Sadra

I do think that 'well played' is most often used for mocking the other player.  Whenever I dead draw or make a silly mistake, I always see the 'well played' from my opponent but when I do make great plays most of the times I get an angry red face. These messages are often spammed by opponents as well during my turn, probably to distract me from thinking.

 

I do realize that the hostility of opponents have greatly increased since the chat ban and this is probably due to players sole interest of climbing the versus ladder to get whatever cheap stuff  is in the ladder. I do enjoy playing IRL more as it is more interactive and people tend to be more friendly and nice. But the online game does have a more diverse pool of strategies and players, which is good.

 

To conclude, the pokemon company are geniuses in protecting their wallet and keeping players to the real life game (not actually the devs fault since their power is limited).  I believe that the higher authorities DO NOT want it to be interactive so they wouldn't implement anything said in this forum. If this online game is interactive, has better card presentations, cheaper to play, and even has the ability to hold tournaments similar to those IRL, I think that the number of players that play IRL would drop significantly. You can't compare this game to hearthstone, since one does not have real cards and one does. 

 

I don't want to get my account banned so I will just stop rambling, I kind of understand the real bug's frustration and I believe that his ranting also got him into some trouble as well, rather than what he said in the forums. 

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SuperStone

I do think that 'well played' is most often used for mocking the other player.

I do see this, but rarely.  Much more often I see it used as gg.  Of course, I always make sure to initiate both hello and well played, so I'm sure that affects my stats.

 

I do realize that the hostility of opponents have greatly increased since the chat ban and this is probably due to players sole interest of climbing the versus ladder to get whatever cheap stuff  is in the ladder. I do enjoy playing IRL more as it is more interactive and people tend to be more friendly and nice. But the online game does have a more diverse pool of strategies and players, which is good.

More, I'd say, because anonymity has gone even higher since the can.  I also like playing IRL better, but it's so dang expensive to get competitive cards.  :wacko: 

 

 

To conclude, the pokemon company are geniuses in protecting their wallet and keeping players to the real life game (not actually the devs fault since their power is limited).

FAM!!!  Plus 1.  :P 

 

I also agree that comparing this to Hearthstone isn't very worthwhile.  After all, it is a CCG and this a TCG- a one letter difference that completely changes the dynamic of strategy, collecting, and player interactions.  And, of course, the company's business model.

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RobRatt

To add to @Sakura's list, it sure would be nice to have a way to concede politely.  Right now, it can be rather abrupt.

 

"I give up.  Good game."

 

...or something similar?

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SuperStone

To add to @Sakura's list, it sure would be nice to have a way to concede politely.  Right now, it can be rather abrupt.

 

"I give up.  Good game."

 

...or something similar?

Or something like "Sry, mon, gotta go. :(" or "Until we meet again...  May the wind that blows the world round be ever at your back."

 

Not their style, I suppose, but I'd use 'em.

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