My Lost March List in Expanded: Fun to Play and Easy to Master
When lost march came out, many of my friends tried to make it work in both standard and expanded but the deck faces a few problems:
1. just seemed too clunky since it ran a lot of mons
2. it seemed way to vulnerable to spread decks or bench damage due to the lost marchers’ low HP.
3. Not getting enough hoopips on turn 1 could result in falling behind the prize trade due to low damage imput.
4. Deck lacks consistency without suppoter EX/GX (shaymin, lele, jirachi). However, the player will get easily punished by a guzma and fall behind the prize trade once again.
I really wished to make it work since it seemed so fun to play. I found some decklists online including team fish knuckles no-jumpluff deck and Danny Treminio’s list that made top 44 in Anaheim’s regional. Team fish knuckles deck had an interesting concept as it is very similar to Connor’s Finton’s vespiquen/flareon decklist and aimed to go fast without evolving Hoopips but rather using exeggcute/lost blender combos to fuel up natu’s attack. However, the deck is very clunky and the damage output is usually way too low during the first or second turns and sometimes I think that it would be better to wait a turn rather than wasting a DCE and performing an attack that isn’t significant enough. Danny’s decklist was overall good but it lacked consistency and out of 3 games I played I dead-drawed 3. In addition, it is almost an auto-loss to spread decks (e.g. trevenant) and boy do you need to get lucky to avoid these matchups and get lucky without dead drawing. Danny’s decklist also has a lot of problematic choices such as playing one copy supporters (guzma, elm) without lele (I hardly believe you would draw that exact supporter you needed on that particular turn, other than turn 1 or 2, elm will remain as a garbage card for the rest of the game), no ways to retreat (seriously, this is really gambling), and being too greedy on damage (you really don’t need choice bands). I understand that this deck may never be able to cover everything due to its tight deck space but still, these decklists just seem a bit underwhelming to me. Don’t get me wrong, both team fish knuckles and Danny are awesome players, its just these decklists don’t work for me.
After playtesting for quite a while, this the final decklist I came up with :
****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******
##Pokémon - 24
* 1 Oranguru SUM 113
* 4 Trumbeak LOT 165
* 1 Machop GRI 63
* 1 Machoke GRI 64
* 3 Hoppip LOT 12
* 1 Hoppip STS 3
* 4 Skiploom LOT 13
* 4 Jumpluff LOT 14
* 1 Marshadow SLG 45
* 3 Natu LOT 87
* 1 Tapu Lele-GX GRI 155
##Trainer Cards - 30
* 2 Net Ball LOT 234
* 1 Master Ball PLB 94
* 1 Super Rod DRV 20
* 2 Professor Juniper PLF 116
* 4 Great Ball SLG 60
* 4 Pokémon Communication BLW 99
* 1 Colress PLS 135
* 4 Level Ball AOR 76
* 2 Cynthia UPR 148
* 2 Guzma BUS 143
* 1 Brigette BKT 161
* 2 N NVI 101
* 3 Lost Blender LOT 233
* 1 Float Stone PLF 99
##Energy - 6
* 3 Grass Energy GRI 167
* 3 Double Colorless Energy GRI 166
Total Cards - 60
****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******
Some choices of this deck are explained below:
Basically prevents all spread decks from sniping the bench. Of course, some people would say, why not play a giratina promo? This basically destroys the top 2 most aggressive spread decks (greninja, trevenant). The problem is many greninja decks run silent lab and in a deck that plays zero field blowers and stadiums, what’s the point? Although being a stage 1, which would take an additional turn to get out, machoke’s ability protects everything other than spell tag and in a decklist that maxes out communications and balls, it really isn’t difficult to get out on turn 2 when needed. Another potential and important use of this line is that it is great to put into the lost zone with blenders to fuel up attacks since many other pokemon in the deck may play an important role and sometimes you really don’t want to throw them in there.
Just for the sake of consistency. You really want to get out a turn 1 brigette or get a draw supporter at crucial points of the game. Whether to bench the lele is highly situational and depends on the matchup. If your dealing with shrines or non-GX decks, you might want to hold on to it, but against many matchups (zoroark, rayquaza, buzzwole), it really doesn’t make that of a difference.
3.Brigette instead of Elm
In many games, oranguru is really important and you want to get it out ******** draw power. The main reason of playing elm is to get skiplooms but again, a deck with 4 levels, 4 greats, 4 communications never should struggle with this issue.
4.0 Vs seekers (Are you crazy?)
Yep, playing a deck without one of the most important and powerful cards in expanded seems like pure madness. If I could, I would. BUT, there are problems with running VS seekers:
1. Decks that have massive draw power and have measures of discarding supporters (e.g. UB) into the discard pile can take advantage of seekers whereas this deck that has limited options makes seekers pure garbage when drawn on early game with a hand of nothing.
2. To play seekers you have to first decrease the number of supporters you play and this increases the probability of dead drawing and thus you would heavily rely on orangurus, lele, and marshadows to get the cards you need. But remember, benching these not only makes losses to guzma (giving your opponent an extra turn) more possible but weakens your lost march as less hoopips would be benched.
Overall, you really need to conserve your resources when playing this deck and think through which supporter to play/fetch on each turn (especially those guzmas) since these cards, in a way, enter the lost zone after you play them.
5. 1 Float stone
As argued repetitively above, you really need to have methods of retreat sometimes without wasting energies. This could lead to losses in the late game.
6. 0 Timer Balls
My luck is genuinely bad and I never want the gamble on my luck. The general outcome of the timer ball is 1 heads, which I could achieve with levels. While you could get a awesome 2 heads from time to time, getting a never-lucky 2 tails on a critical turn could be devastating.
1. This deck has a great performance and trades well against many meta decks that play any GX’s (zoroark, seismitoad). Even against non GX/EX decks like night march, your opponent really has to think through about whether to bench that lele/shaymin or not to prevent a guzma knockout.
2. Quite consistent, based on my experience, you should be able to achieve a 150-180 damage by turn two and 220+ on turn 3.
3. Going first is nice but going second doesn’t hurt that much either. This is an important advantage of non GX/EX decks.
1. Almost an auto-loss against shuckle and rotom (IRL nobody plays rotom though). Probably a wise decision to tech in alolan muk.
2. Poor flexibility of supporter use due to zero vs seekers.