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Best EXPANDED decks Oct'18 ?


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17 October 2018 - 09:41 PM

#1

Chasista

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  • Chasista

I came back after leaving some months before summer and I missed 2 and a half full sets+Dragon majesty. Unfortunate BUT, rotation arrived so, a lot of cards moved away. At the end not so far from other people in Standard, having to build the decks again replacing the cards that gone.

 

But on the other side I have a total of +400 decks copied, missing cards, different versions just changing a card after some games not erasing the prior ones...  and a huge amount with banned cards. Wally, Hex maniac, Puzzle of time and FoGP made the most. Also Ghetsis in some older ones. In addition, every deck needs its Ace Spec and Karen (and some I already had from previous years don't include them).

 

So I need to check all OR, start again.

 

Some of them lost a lot of power. A 1st turn Wally was huge for Trevenant Break or Greninja BREAK going second or evolving to stage 2+Break same turn. Every Puzzle of time deck needs now a couple special charge at least (if only 4 DCE, you need something to not loose all and end the game).

 

Also a lot of decks not being benefited of Sycamore/Juniper discards, could actually work better with Cynthia.

 

All together a lot of work so... what do you think are the best Expanded decks after rotation or at least, playable to have some fun?

 

In my mind:

 

- Dragon Garchomp/Lucario/Cynthia (with Vs seeker, lovely)

- Night march/Marshdow GX

- Night march/ Zoroark GX

- Greninja Break/(right now trying with Talonflame but I don't use it so much, have to be a better partner).

 

So... what do you play in Expanded now?

 

Thanks all.


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17 October 2018 - 10:12 PM

#2

Felidae_

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  • Felidae_

The best deck, and I'm 99.9% certain of this, is Wailord. The only downside to the deck is that you need 2-4 Tropical Beach to play it. Using only 1 Beach can work to an extend and having none (like yours truly) also works, but I wouldn't recommend it.

Although it may seem as if the ban of Puzzle of Time hurt this deck I believe that many people forgot that simultaneously we also lost Hex Maniac, which benefits Hoopa as a secondary Pokemon a lot. I reached 12-15 win-streaks consecutively with my garbage budget version at a high ELO level and I'm currently trying desperately to trade my assets into GUR packs, just to get my first Beach, which will benefit this deck so much.

 

The only downside is that Wailord isn't the fastest deck and you could argue that speed is an important asset while climbing the ladder.

For that purpose I'd suggest Buzzwole GX. The deck has an amazing support with Korrina, can dish out tons of damage, has the natural advantage over Zoroark GX and furthermore benefits from a format that just lost its major control tools.

 

If you are lacking new cards though I'd just stick to the classics:

NM + Zoroark GX + Marshadow GX

Zoroak GX + X (be aware of Sudowoodo though)

Trashalanche Garbodor + X

Greninja Break

Turbo Darkrai (not in the best spot at the moment, due to the weakness to Buzzwole, but the deck can definitely catch people off guard)

 

To be honest there are so many viable decks in Expanded right now. Even older archetypes like Seismitoad can get decent results, simply due to the fact that the format lost its biggest oppressions tools in the form of Ghetsis and Hex Maniac.


Edited by Felidae_, 17 October 2018 - 10:13 PM.

The shadows of the abyss are like the petals of a monstrous flower that shall blossom within the skull and expand the mind beyond what any man can bear, but whether it decays under the earth or above on green fields, or out to sea or in the very air, all shall come to revelation, and to revel, in the knowledge of the strangling fruit - and the hand of the sinner shall rejoice, for there is no sin in shadow or in light that the seeds of the dead cannot forgive...

 

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23 October 2018 - 04:16 PM

#3

BigMac1391

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  • BigMac1391

For expanded I would add the Rotom deck; with Battle Compressor and VS Seeker, Rotom players can be attacking for 200+ with weakness on the first turn. It's got hard counters but many of the other good decks don't run those counters. 


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24 October 2018 - 03:49 PM

#4

Chasista

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  • Chasista
Yes, I 'll have to check that Rotom's seems funny

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27 October 2018 - 11:22 PM

#5

SuperStone

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I think I've played one game against a rotom deck where they actually got threatening.  It's a difficult strategy to make work.  But hey, when you do, it's gotta be a great feeling. :)

 

Volcanion still has cred, though it's no longer a common sight.  Steam up is just such a wonderful ability that I doubt it will ever fade completely. (I realize that I'm always out there championing the Volcs to the point I must seem like a political ad.  There's a reason for that.  Volcanion is what freed me from the former Lord of Expanded; from the dark powers of Yveltal/Darkari.  I no longer linger under its influence.)

 

This is the first time I've actually felt Trev is a problem.  It's always been a bit annoying, true, but the banning of the Hex Maniac means most decks are now defenseless.  That's not something I can really stand for.

 

Lyet us kill ze trees for firewood!!!

-Um, SuperStone?  They're already dead.

Zay vut now?

-They're ghosts.  They're dead.

Zen let it be a ghost fire!!!

-But you can't kill them.  How are you going to burn them if you can't kill them?

You hev not listened to ze Unova anime opening songs, hef you? "Ah know we're gonna make it, ve vill find a waaaaaay....

-You're an idiot.

Zat is neither here nor zere.


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30 October 2018 - 01:05 PM

#6

Chasista

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  • Chasista

I think I've played one game against a rotom deck where they actually got threatening.  It's a difficult strategy to make work.  But hey, when you do, it's gotta be a great feeling. :)

 

It's a "Night march" aka use all possible Battle compressor; but you don't have to find the DCE+Dimension valley , which was the point to add 3 Shaymin+ 4 Unown+ surf through 3/4 of drawing pile... Still didn't checked any list but, it seems a simpler strategy beforehand :)


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30 October 2018 - 10:16 PM

#7

Felidae_

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  • Felidae_

The biggest problem for Rotom decks is the inability to get OHKO's against Zoroark and a bunch of other heavy hitters (where you can't ***** type advantage). Relying on Shamyin EX makes the prize trade even more difficult.

While the ban of Hex Maniac certainly helped the deck, I'd still consider it tier 2.5 at best.

 

Edit: Can't wait for the new set. Faba is going to be such a broken card for Wailord ^_^


Edited by Felidae_, 30 October 2018 - 10:44 PM.

The shadows of the abyss are like the petals of a monstrous flower that shall blossom within the skull and expand the mind beyond what any man can bear, but whether it decays under the earth or above on green fields, or out to sea or in the very air, all shall come to revelation, and to revel, in the knowledge of the strangling fruit - and the hand of the sinner shall rejoice, for there is no sin in shadow or in light that the seeds of the dead cannot forgive...

 

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