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Ultra Necrozma/ Malamar Standard


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05 July 2018 - 06:17 PM

#1

Eden2902

    Senior Trainer

  • Eden2902
Hey guys,

I've paused playing PTCGO for nearly a half year because of the real Pokemon games and now I've found a deck which looks pretty cool but isn't the most consistent:

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

Pokémon - 17

3 Ultra Necrozma-GX FLI 95
4 Malamar FLI 51
4 Inkay FLI 50
2 Dawn Wings Necrozma-GX UPR 63
2 Tapu Lele-GX GRI 60
1 Oranguru SUM 113
1 Mew FCO 29

Trainer Cards - 32

4 Cynthia UPR 119
4 Professor Sycamore BKP 107
3 Guzma BUS 115
2 N FCO 105
1 Lillie UPR 125
4 Float Stone BKT 137
4 Mysterious Treasure FLI 113
2 Choice Band GRI 121
2 Field Blower GRI 125
2 Professor's Letter BKT 146
2 Ultra Ball SUM 135
1 Beast Ring FLI 102
1 Rescue Stretcher GRI 130

Energy - 11

7 Psychic Energy Energy 5
3 Metal Energy Energy 8
1 Beast Energy ◇ FLI 117

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

Could you please help me to make it more consistent/ deadly?

The cake is a lie!

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05 July 2018 - 06:28 PM

#2

Player_Jay

    Trainer

  • Player_Jay
-1 Professor Scyamore
-1 Lillie
-1 Float Stone
-2 M. Treasure
-1 Rescue Stretcher
-1 Psychic Energy

+1 N
+1 Brigette
+1 Choice Band
+2 Ultra Ball
+1 Super Rod
+1 Metal Energy
It is said that if Gengar is hiding, it cools the area by nearly 10 degrees Fahrenheit.
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05 July 2018 - 07:57 PM

#3

Eden2902

    Senior Trainer

  • Eden2902
Why would u change this cards? Could you explain it? I mean: m treasure is the heart of deck

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05 July 2018 - 09:25 PM

#4

PlatinumDude

    Veteran Trainer

  • PlatinumDude

-1 Professor Scyamore
-1 Lillie
-1 Float Stone
-2 M. Treasure
-1 Rescue Stretcher
-1 Psychic Energy

+1 N
+1 Brigette
+1 Choice Band
+2 Ultra Ball
+1 Super Rod
+1 Metal Energy

The deck runs a full set each of Ultra Ball and Mysterious Treasure to search out pretty much every Pokemon in the deck consistently. Plus, Mysterious Treasure searches out its targets at half the cost of Ultra Ball.

 

Whether to use Lillie or Brigette as the turn 1 supporter is up to personal preference. I personally use Lillie because Mysterious Treasure and Ultra Ball give the deck great consistency in getting Pokemon out, while a turn 1 8-card hand gives me more options on what to do that turn or the turn after.


Edited by PlatinumDude, 05 July 2018 - 09:26 PM.

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05 July 2018 - 09:47 PM

#5

Player_Jay

    Trainer

  • Player_Jay
-1 Scyamore
+1 N

Your deck only runs 1 revival card:
1x Rescue Stretcher - gets back Pokémon.

You run no draw supporter recovery cards such as Pal Pad.
You run no way to pull a draw supporter from discard like Puzzles of Time.

This means any draw supporter you use or discard is gone forever.
Some decks do a strategy like above.

In order for the strategy to work, you have to triple up or quadruple up on your main cards.
This lets you have spares to discard with extra’s left.
Most of your main draw supporters are below:

4x Cynthia
4x P. Scyamore
3x Guzma
2x N

The only 1 left out is N
You have him at 2.
I replaced 1x P. Scyamore to get N at 3.

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-1 Lillie
+1 Brigette

You have Lillie at 1.
My guess is so you can use Lillie turn 1.

Ultra Ball or M. Treasure > Tapu Lele > Lillie for your turn 1 play.

I don’t like that play personally.
I prefer the below play.

U. Ball or M. Treasure > Tapu Lele > Brigette for your turn 1 play.

Than you can set up with 3 Pokémon
I think at the very minimum you need at least 1 Inkay on your field at the beginning.
It is an evolution line Pokémon.
You need to get him out turn 1 or 2 to give him the chance to evolve. ASAP

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-1 Float Stone
+1 Choice Band

Most times you will put Float Stone on Dawn Wings.
Than you will step in & retreat.
You don’t need 4x Floats to do this.

You only have 2x Dawn Wings to begin with.
You will only ever need 2 and maybe 1 as spare if your opponent Field Blows 1 away.

I think you will be fine in dropping 1.
You can than buff the Choice Bands which is at 2.

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-2 M. Treasure
+2 Ultra Ball

The previous changes I recommended are probably stuff you should change.
This recommended is optional.

It’s a very very small technical difference which could probably be ignored depending on how you play.

Here is the very very small technical issue:
M. Treasure can draw all your Pokémon except Oranguru.
U. Ball can draw all your Pokémon with no exceptions.

You have Tapu Lele on field.
Your other Tapu Lele is Prized.
You have M. Treasure in hand.
You desperately need an Oranguru, but can’t get him!
Your stuck!

The above situation can happen right?

Now did I give you ways to fix above situation? Yes!
I told you to add Brigette.

Turn 1 Brigette you can select 3 Pokémon
- Inkay
- Oranguru
- Ultra Necro

All other Pokémon in deck are searchable with M. Treasure!
Boom, advice is ignored!

Or maybe you decide that your babies are more important in the beginning
Turn 1 Brigette:
- 2x Inkay
- 1x Ultra Necro

Than you have 4x Ultra Ball to search Oranguru later.
You can spin this all kinds of ways.
This is why I say this piece of advice is optional.

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-1 Rescue Stretcher
+1 Super Rod

This advice is something you should probably do.
Rescue Stretcher can bring back Pokémon only.
Super Rod can bring back Pokémon + Energy.

Malamar will bring back Psychic energy so that isn’t a problem.
The problem is facing a discard deck that discards your metal energy.
Super Rod can help you bring back Pokémon + Metal Energy.
It’s superior to Rescue Stretcher, until the September 1 rotation.
Than Super Rod is rotating out of Standard.
You will than be forced to run Rescue Stretcher.

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The last advice is just to buff your Metal energy count with a spare.
You have 3x Ultra Necro.
One day, you might have 2x Metal energy in hand + 1 Scyamore.
You might attach 1 Metal to Pokémon, but the other ones gets discarded because of Scyamore.
By having 4, you gave yourself a spare just incase.

Edited by Player_Jay, 05 July 2018 - 09:50 PM.

It is said that if Gengar is hiding, it cools the area by nearly 10 degrees Fahrenheit.
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05 July 2018 - 10:12 PM

#6

Player_Jay

    Trainer

  • Player_Jay

The deck runs a full set each of Ultra Ball and Mysterious Treasure to search out pretty much every Pokemon in the deck consistently. Plus, Mysterious Treasure searches out its targets at half the cost of Ultra Ball.

Whether to use Lillie or Brigette as the turn 1 supporter is up to personal preference. I personally use Lillie because Mysterious Treasure and Ultra Ball give the deck great consistency in getting Pokemon out, while a turn 1 8-card hand gives me more options on what to do that turn or the turn after.

Lillie should worship the ground Brigette walks on because BRIGETTE IS BEST TURN 1.
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CHANGE MY MIND!

**Raises Coffee Cup**

Edited by Player_Jay, 05 July 2018 - 10:17 PM.

It is said that if Gengar is hiding, it cools the area by nearly 10 degrees Fahrenheit.
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06 July 2018 - 03:50 AM

#7

BowserLuigi

    Elite Trainer

  • BowserLuigi
Most Malamar lists I see run 4 MT, which searches every pokemon bar a few techs, and 3 UB, which still gives a decent chance to search for anything else.
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06 July 2018 - 01:44 PM

#8

Eden2902

    Senior Trainer

  • Eden2902
Thx for your suggestions and the very good explanation of those :)

What is with max elixirs? And Skyla to find them? With this the Wing Necrozma could be ready in round one and make pressure especially on buzzwole gx which is really a huge problem for all of my decks.

The cake is a lie!

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06 July 2018 - 05:17 PM

#9

BowserLuigi

    Elite Trainer

  • BowserLuigi

Thx for your suggestions and the very good explanation of those :)

What is with max elixirs? And Skyla to find them? With this the Wing Necrozma could be ready in round one and make pressure especially on buzzwole gx which is really a huge problem for all of my decks.

Skyla for Max Elixir is .... generally not a great play. Skyla's most prominent usage is to search for rare candy. However, with vs seeker gone hardly any deck runs skyla anymore.

 

Max Elixir is usually included in Necrozma/Malamar anyway, whereas Ultra Necrozma/Malamar tend to use Beast Ring instead.


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