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Ninetales Deck Acting Up


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16 May 2018 - 03:33 PM

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Jetboys

    Rookie Trainer

  • Jetboys

So I have been working on a good and consistent Ninetales GX deck, and even though the construction looks good, I keep on ending up with hands I just can't do anything with. 

 

If people could give me suggestions and tell me what cards I should take out or put in that would be greatly appreciated. 

 

Here is the decklist:

 

Pokemon 13

 

Alolan Vulpix 4

Alolan Ninetales GX 4

Remoraid 1

Octillery 1

Manaphy Ex 1 (aqua tube)

Tapu Lele Gx 2

 

Energy 12

 

Water 8

Double Colorless 4

 

Trainers 35

 

Rough Seas 4

Guzma 2

Professor Juniper 4

N 4

Bridgette 1

Pokemon Center Lady 2

Aqua Patch 4

Rescue Stretcher 2

VS Seeker 4

Choice Band 1

Rock Guard 1

Ultra Ball 4

 


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16 May 2018 - 09:31 PM

#2

Xi_of_SCS

    Trainer

  • Xi_of_SCS

A9T is a stalling poke. You need to combine with a heavy hitter. I've tried Zoroark and Xerneas.

 

For example:

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Edited by Xi_of_SCS, 16 May 2018 - 09:32 PM.

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16 May 2018 - 10:18 PM

#3

SuperStone

    Elite Trainer

  • SuperStone

A9T is a stalling poke. You need to combine with a heavy hitter. I've tried Zoroark and Xerneas.

He's using the GX, not the reg form- so it's really more of a turbo/snipe/disruption deck.


The rest of the world must act as they see fit.  If TPCi insists on keeping the Chat canned, that is their decision.

 

But that does not stop me from opposing it.

And I will oppose it forever.

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17 May 2018 - 02:18 PM

#4

Xi_of_SCS

    Trainer

  • Xi_of_SCS

My bad. It simply didn't occur to me why anybody would ever use Alolan Ninetales-GX instead of Garchomp and Lucario.

 

Kill four of these dragons while losing three of your GX and who wins?

 

Spoiler


Edited by Xi_of_SCS, 17 May 2018 - 02:22 PM.

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17 May 2018 - 07:37 PM

#5

shadoxfoxspirit

    Rookie Trainer

  • shadoxfoxspirit
Alolan Ninetales Deck:

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

Pokémon - 16

* 3 Zorua
* 3 Zoroark-GX
* 1 Oricorio GRI 56
* 1 Tapu Lele-GX
* 4 Alolan Vulpix
* 1 Volcanion {Prism*}
* 3 Alolan Ninetales-GX

Trainer Cards - 30

* 2 N
* 2 Crasher Wake
* 3 Choice Band
* 1 Lana
* 1 Super Rod
* 4 Aqua Patch
* 1 Special Charge
* 4 Cynthia
* 1 Professor's Letter
* 4 Ultra Ball
* 1 Field Blower
* 2 Float Stone
* 2 Professor Sycamore
* 2 Guzma

Energy - 14

* 4 Double Colorless Energy
* 10 Water Energy

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

This is my list I’m gonna test out. I would switch Octillery to Zoroark, drop water for aqua patch.
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18 May 2018 - 11:11 PM

#6

SuperStone

    Elite Trainer

  • SuperStone

My bad. It simply didn't occur to me why anybody would ever use Alolan Ninetales-GX instead of Garchomp and Lucario.

 

Kill four of these dragons while losing three of your GX and who wins?

Here's the thing: Ninetales has more support, and more consistency.  Garchomp needs Candy, a Cynthia every turn, and special charge.  Nintales has Aqua Patch, Manaphy-EX, Lapras as a switch-hitter, a more consistent (though worse) second attack, and gets to use an extremely powerful set-up attack.

 

Garchomp is still probably a better deck, but the trade-offs are evident.


The rest of the world must act as they see fit.  If TPCi insists on keeping the Chat canned, that is their decision.

 

But that does not stop me from opposing it.

And I will oppose it forever.

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20 May 2018 - 09:49 PM

#7

Comicazy

    Junior Trainer

  • Comicazy

Jetboys- What kind of hands are you ending up with that you can't do anything with? Too much energy? Too many trainer cards that aren't usable immediately? 

 

I'm no expert, so I'll just give my thoughts based on a little experience. You decide what you ultimately want to do. I'm also primarily a Standard format player.

 

Octillery(I'm assuming it's the draw until you have 5 in the hand ability) is great for when you've got a small hand and you're using almost everything you draw. However, I think you need more draw support. By that I mean, you need to be able to get rid of useless card in your current hand to get to what you need. Professor Sycamore is a common Staple card to help you get the cards you need. N does a decent job, but it's just not as powerful especially in the late game(unless you're behind and dropping your opponent to 1 or 2 cards can kill their steam). I don't typically run more than 2 N's, if any(personal preference). Cynthia can also do a good job if you don't want to change your opponents hand, and you have cards that you absolutely need to keep in your deck.

 

If you're playing online, when you look at your deck there is a button that say 'Export Decklist'. That will copy your entire deck, and when you paste it, it will look like the other decks that were posted. This allows everyone to see exactly what cards(Expansion, card number, etc) you're running, and they can make better suggestions. 

 

Hope any of that helps you. If I think of anything else, I'll let you know.


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22 May 2018 - 04:24 PM

#8

Jetboys

    Rookie Trainer

  • Jetboys

I am mostly ending up with hands that don't have energy or do not have a means of getting new cards.  It is really annoying because I can't knock out the opponents pokemon before he charges up a benched pokemon without the energy. 


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22 May 2018 - 05:21 PM

#9

Comicazy

    Junior Trainer

  • Comicazy

Okay, just looked it up and realized that Juniper is the same as Sycamore, my bad. As I said before I'm primarily a Standard Format Player.

 

Here's what I'm thinking. To me, 13 Pokemon seems a bit much. Could possibly cut to a 2-2 or 3-2 line for Ninetales, then you could have room for either more energy, or energy searches(Professors Letter, Energy Lotto)

 

Also, if you're not getting enough energy to begin with, Aqua Patch may not be as useful since it draws the energy from the discard pile.

 

Hope this helps some.


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22 May 2018 - 06:23 PM

#10

BowserLuigi

    Elite Trainer

  • BowserLuigi

Okay, just looked it up and realized that Juniper is the same as Sycamore, my bad. As I said before I'm primarily a Standard Format Player.

 

Here's what I'm thinking. To me, 13 Pokemon seems a bit much. Could possibly cut to a 2-2 or 3-2 line for Ninetales, then you could have room for either more energy, or energy searches(Professors Letter, Energy Lotto)

 

Also, if you're not getting enough energy to begin with, Aqua Patch may not be as useful since it draws the energy from the discard pile.

 

Hope this helps some.

The pokemon count is actually fine. Seeing as Alolan Ninetales GX is the main pokemon in the deck, I do not recommend going a 2-2 or 3-2 line. 4-3 line is ok to make room for 1 baby Icetales.

 

The energy count seems healthy enough. Maybe take out the nurse joys/lana for cynthias?


Edited by BowserLuigi, 22 May 2018 - 06:24 PM.

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06 June 2018 - 03:43 AM

#11

Player_Jay

    Veteran Trainer

  • Player_Jay
The problem is you have implemented the wrong deck strategy.

Furthermore, your Pokémon count is to low.

You need more Pokémon!

Lastly, I don’t know what format you want to play this deck in.

My best guess is Expanded because of the VS Seekers.

However, your not running Battle Compressors which leaves me thinking maybe not Expanded?

I need more information before I can help you.
It is said that if Gengar is hiding, it cools the area by nearly 10 degrees Fahrenheit.
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08 June 2018 - 11:23 PM

#12

Player_Jay

    Veteran Trainer

  • Player_Jay
LOL @ People who rated down my previous comment!

My previous comment was spot on peeps.

I’m sorry if you can’t understand why my comment was spot on.

You could have asked!
It is said that if Gengar is hiding, it cools the area by nearly 10 degrees Fahrenheit.
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