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casualdude123

Hi

 

what type of game should i play like legacy or extended to avoid these cards as i cannot win with my cards.

sometimes players have whole benches of ex and gx cards and i lose very quickly.

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graywh

Theme format is the only way to avoid EX and GX.

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Sadra

Play night march. It pretty much destroys them if they dont have tapukoko/oricorio combo. Even if your opponent Karens you for 1 or 2 times, you still have a high possibility to win by discarding through ultra balls, computer serach, and puzzles. 

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DeathlySkilz

Night march is a strog card mabye you can the galvaltua theme deck to get 4

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zlude_in

Night march is a strog card mabye you can the galvaltua theme deck to get 4

 

That's a waste of 1000+ tokens.

 

It's easier to buy the Hidden Moon theme deck and using the tokens to play in tournaments that awards tickets (and then using those tickets to win packs, trading those packs for everything you need to build NM in the process)

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SandaledOtter

That's a waste of 1000+ tokens.

 

It's easier to buy the Hidden Moon theme deck and using the tokens to play in tournaments that awards tickets (and then using those tickets to win packs, trading those packs for everything you need to build NM in the process)

Hmm...

Hidden Moon = 500 tokens

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Ticket prize tourney = 89 tokens to get 0.875 ticket, so 101 tokens per ticket average.

Pack prize tourney = 4 tickets (404 tokens) to get 0.875 booster pack average.

If you're lucky, you'll get two of the current sets' boosters, which might be enough to get you a 4-4 line, after 17 tournaments costing a bit less than 1300 tokens (plus the tickets you earn).

 

Winning without HM is hard, winning with it is down to luck.

So, I guess that's cheaper than HM + 4*another deck.

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grriffinn

That's a waste of 1000+ tokens.

 

It's easier to buy the Hidden Moon theme deck and using the tokens to play in tournaments that awards tickets (and then using those tickets to win packs, trading those packs for everything you need to build NM in the process)

Not to mention that you can't buy Bolt Twister (the deck he was referring to) in the shop anymore.

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Xi_of_SCS

Have your Alolan Ninetails hit their EX or GX with Aurora Beam on turn two.

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Eevee_Girl16

Don't necessarily need GX/EX to win against the same either. Use pokemon abilities to your advantage (if you can get the draw). I have a Delphox that can dish out over 200 damage if used right. I also use a Bouffalant with the "Gold Breaker" attack that deals extra damage to EX pokemon. You can also mess people up with coin flips. Example, I have a Ponyta w/ agility that does 10 damage and if I flip heads on the coin toss Ponyta can't be attacked. Again, it's luck, but it may buy you time to work on a plan.

Unfortunately sometimes luck of the draw works against you but if you strategize and build your deck right you can hold your own.

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SandaledOtter

Don't necessarily need GX/EX to win against the same either. Use pokemon abilities to your advantage (if you can get the draw). I have a Delphox that can dish out over 200 damage if used right. I also use a Bouffalant with the "Gold Breaker" attack that deals extra damage to EX pokemon. You can also mess people up with coin flips. Example, I have a Ponyta w/ agility that does 10 damage and if I flip heads on the coin toss Ponyta can't be attacked. Again, it's luck, but it may buy you time to work on a plan.

Unfortunately sometimes luck of the draw works against you but if you strategize and build your deck right you can hold your own.

 

Now tell us how to avoid players with pokemon that have Abilities. Those are the big problem. :D

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Felidae_

Don't necessarily need GX/EX to win against the same either. Use pokemon abilities to your advantage (if you can get the draw). I have a Delphox that can dish out over 200 damage if used right. I also use a Bouffalant with the "Gold Breaker" attack that deals extra damage to EX pokemon. You can also mess people up with coin flips. Example, I have a Ponyta w/ agility that does 10 damage and if I flip heads on the coin toss Ponyta can't be attacked. Again, it's luck, but it may buy you time to work on a plan.

Unfortunately sometimes luck of the draw works against you but if you strategize and build your deck right you can hold your own.

Beginner should really take notes here:

Not only are you able to win against GX /EX Pokemon with regular Pokemon, you don't even need a big collection to do so. Keep in mind that your opponents are likely to be on the same as level as you ( at least in versus mode), which means that despite their strong looking EX /GX Pokemon, there decks will feature a lot of bad cards and they are going to make mistakes during the game.

Don't get intimidated, figure out a good strategy and improve as a player.

Remember the wise words of Arnold Schwarzenegger: If it bleeds, we can kill it.

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BowserLuigi

Beginner should really take notes here:

Not only are you able to win against GX /EX Pokemon with regular Pokemon, you don't even need a big collection to do so. Keep in mind that your opponents are likely to be on the same as level as you ( at least in versus mode), which means that despite their strong looking EX /GX Pokemon, there decks will feature a lot of bad cards and they are going to make mistakes during the game.

Don't get intimidated, figure out a good strategy and improve as a player.

Remember the wise words of Arnold Schwarzenegger: If it bleeds, we can kill it.

Exactly. If you see the other guy play a whole bunch of EX/GX but also toss out a Hau or malasada you know you have a chance (assuming you are also not playing Hau and malasadas) ;)

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KabuTopGun

Hi

 

what type of game should i play like legacy or extended to avoid these cards as i cannot win with my cards.

sometimes players have whole benches of ex and gx cards and i lose very quickly.

Well as has been mentioned, Theme is the only way to avoid both, but GX Pokemon are too recent to be included in Legacy, so you just have EX pokemon to worry about.

 

In Legacy Weavil(arguably best value for money deck you can build), Trubbish(Tool Drop version, which is cheap, though multiple Sigilyph is also needed which costs a bit) and ReshiPhlosion(Reshiram is available in a theme deck for a short time and they sometimes include Typhlosion Prime in a shop bundle of HGSS boosters) decks can all be built without Ex's and are capable of taking wins.

Anyway, Legacy can take a bit to break into, but your deck won't be rendered obsolete by rotation and I find EX pokemon more tolerable to GX ones personally.

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Theolla

Like they said, theme format is the way to go to avoid GX.  It's not impossible to progress against GX pokemon, though, even if that's the majority of your opponent's deck.  I have been playing extended format, and enjoying it.  Although my goals are mainly whatever my current challenge is.  I don't care so much about winning, as long as I can knock out a couple Pokemon, I'm good.  I'm a new player, I've been playing for maybe a month, haven't spent any trainer tokens yet.

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Roy_DM

Theme format. Alolan ninetails deck is nice.

Pay no attention to comments saying challengers are leveled. When you have no cards, winning is harder, period.

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Sean369248

In the TCG,I used about 10 pokemon,20 trainers and 30 energy(I used more than four types of energy),I used a few EX,two GX and dragonite(heavy impact).I have win streak 6 now using the expanded deck that I created.

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Sean369248

Use EX and GX against them.

But the battle lasts long.I battled for 15 minutes the longest.

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VncentPriceLess

Hey Casualdude123,

 

I know exactly what you mean. It seems as if a majority of the EX and GX cards are a bit too strong (e.g. Toxapex GX’s Super Intense Poison. Come on, who’s going to survive that? ). Instead of using cards/characters they truly like, it would appear most players are too caught up with trying to win, instead of just having fun. The EX and GX cards are like the people who backstab in the Dark Souls series: Incredibly annoying, but not unbeatable.

 

In my opinion, why not add a few supporter cards to your deck that disrupt your opponent’s play (e.g. Team Flare or if you like to inflict status conditions, Sea of Nothingness)? Cards like these usually help me.

 

Regardless with what you do, just play the cards you like. If you come up against a player who’s using a lot of EX or GX cards, just do your best and above all, have fun.

 

Remember the words of Karen from Pokemon Silver:

 

“Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites. I like your style. You understand what's important. Go on — — the Champion is waiting."

 

Laters dude, happy gaming and Train On!

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BowserLuigi

Hey Casualdude123,

I know exactly what you mean. It seems as if a majority of the EX and GX cards are a bit too strong (e.g. Toxapex GX’s Super Intense Poison. Come on, who’s going to survive that? ). Instead of using cards/characters they truly like, it would appear most players are too caught up with trying to win, instead of just having fun. The EX and GX cards are like the people who backstab in the Dark Souls series: Incredibly annoying, but not unbeatable.

In my opinion, why not add a few supporter cards to your deck that disrupt your opponent’s play (e.g. Team Flare or if you like to inflict status conditions, Sea of Nothingness)? Cards like these usually help me.

Regardless with what you do, just play the cards you like. If you come up against a player who’s using a lot of EX or GX cards, just do your best and above all, have fun.

Remember the words of Karen from Pokemon Silver:

“Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites. I like your style. You understand what's important. Go on — — the Champion is waiting."

Laters dude, happy gaming and Train On!

I know I shouldn't really reply to this thread seeing that its almost a year old but I would suggest that you take a look at some dominating meta archetypes (search on pokemon.com or google) and take a look at their general deck engine. Understand why each card is played, and understand that the majority of cards in PTCG are just plain bad.

 

There are actually more bad EX/GX than there are good ones. Toxapex is an example of a bad GX. Don't be intimidated by the poison. Instead, realize that instead of giving the opponent a chance to escape, things like Buzzvole GX or Ultra Necrozma GX, or even some non-EX/GX like Xerneas BREAK, simply flat out deletes the enemy in a single hit. It is often said that EX/GX in the hands of an inexperienced player often do more harm than good, as they don't know how to utilize them properly.

 

I would never suggest someone new to include flare grunts in their deck. This card is only really good in full disruption decks like mill or sylveon gx. Again, tossing random flare grunts into any deck not focused on stall or disruption clogs up the deck engine. Any time you're playing a grunt, you're not playing something like cynthia or sycamore to draw more cards. If you don't draw enough cards, you can't set up your board and you lose.

 

Of course, the most important thing is to have fun. Some people like to win. Some people like to be creative. Some people just happen to like Buzzvole. And some people like to annoy others to death.

 

'rings Vs Seeker' Hey whatcha doing here Karen??? The night marchers are still invading the city! Get back in there!

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VncentPriceLess

Hey BowserLuigi,

 

Thanks for pointing out that this is a very old post. Hoestly didn’t see that. Lol.

 

Also, the Flare cards, regardless of deck theme (full on disruption or not) have always come through for me. I use a lot of quick evolve cards (like Wally or Rare Candy) for my deck (Gengar themed), so cards like Sycamore or the like that discard cards are a no go in my book. I’ve won quite a few matches (both online and between friends in real life) because they used cards like Sycamore or N to frequently. I prefer the Cynthia card over those two.

 

Thanks again for pointing out the oldness of the post.

 

Laters, happy gaming and Train On.

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ArkyBoY

I have a huge dislike for the regular play due to the GX/EX cards. I spend most of my time playing theme & theme events. I miss the more simpler times when the damage and health of pokemon was not so ridiculously high.

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BowserLuigi

Hey BowserLuigi,

Thanks for pointing out that this is a very old post. Hoestly didn’t see that. Lol.

Also, the Flare cards, regardless of deck theme (full on disruption or not) have always come through for me. I use a lot of quick evolve cards (like Wally or Rare Candy) for my deck (Gengar themed), so cards like Sycamore or the like that discard cards are a no go in my book. I’ve won quite a few matches (both online and between friends in real life) because they used cards like Sycamore or N to frequently. I prefer the Cynthia card over those two.

Thanks again for pointing out the oldness of the post.

Laters, happy gaming and Train On.

If Sycamore is not ok to you, it may be because you have limited copies of certain key cards. This is also the reason why a lot of newbies dismiss it as a horrible card. But it is one of the most useful cards im the entire game. Cynthia is very good as well, but should be played alongside Sycamore instead of replacing Sycamore.

 

Nevertheless, Sycamore's gonna get rotated soon, so it may be helpful to practice Sycamore-less builds.

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Princess_Aurora

If Sycamore is not ok to you, it may be because you have limited copies of certain key cards. This is also the reason why a lot of newbies dismiss it as a horrible card. But it is one of the most useful cards im the entire game. Cynthia is very good as well, but should be played alongside Sycamore instead of replacing Sycamore.

 

Nevertheless, Sycamore's gonna get rotated soon, so it may be helpful to practice Sycamore-less builds.

I personally prefer Cynthia over Sycamore, the extra 1 card isn't worth for the discard effect. Although that he can be useful when it's your last card, or when you have a handful of supporters.

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Felidae_

 

 

 

it would appear most players are too caught up with trying to win, instead of just having fun.

 

Just a small note to this paragraph, as I've read it time and time again when the inevitable “Pokemon EX / GX are OP thread” is posted.

 

 

 

Winning is actually quite fun. Playing good decks is also quite fun. Having an amazing back and forth game with an opponent of equal skill calibre is tremendously enjoyable.

 

Building your own deck and trying pout different / odd cards is fun. Trying to modify a “meta” deck to fit your own play-style is fun. Building a deck centred towards your favourite Pokemon is fun. Advancing on the ladder to get that sweet FA card is fun. Winning an event is fun. Annoying your opponent with a permission / lock deck is *******] is fun.

 

 

 

Playing the game should indeed be focused around having fun, yet there is no correct formular to determine if something is “fun” or “unfun”, it all lies in the eye of the beholder. I'd probably have less fun playing with your deck, than playing with a fully powered meta game beast. Likewise you'll arguably enjoy the game more, if you play with your style, rather than copying a deck from the internet.

 

 

 

Let's just not act as if one way of playing the game was somehow superior or less/more fun, compared to the other.

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